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[CCW] 上次摩托党追停并砸亚裔车事件,如果有枪该出吗?

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qlblx 发表于 2015-6-5 07:52
原来上课学的AOJ原则,简洁易记,

https://www.useofforce.us/3aojp/

这个网页我记下了,很有用的学习资料。谢谢了!
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赤影 发表于 2018-10-24 09:35 | 只看该作者
为什么没有踩油门拐把弹性碰撞的选项呢?

我也觉得这是一个很好的做法。
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本帖最后由 abadan 于 2021-1-14 12:40 编辑
joefung630 发表于 2020-8-26 21:10
啥也不懂瞎说什么?

都是成年人,请你在公共场合对自己说的话负责

他说的没错
至少我上CCW课的时候,被教官一再告诫,任何时候绝对不能鸣枪警告,也不能显露枪支吓唬,那会给自己惹上大麻烦,只有执法人员才能这么做。
普通平民只有在生命受到威胁时侯才能掏枪,一旦掏枪一定要尽可能射击致命部位,不能手下留情比如射击大腿之类留人性命。
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我要是在美国,就帮你把事平了。

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Zgh11888 发表于 2021-1-17 01:39
我要是在美国,就帮你把事平了。

毛国真能这么上街么?
When You're Up To Your Nose In Shit, Keep Your Mouth Shut. -Jack Beauregard
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CiTY_HuNTeR 发表于 2021-1-16 23:02
毛国真能这么上街么?

摆拍玩而已。当然不能这样上街。这样出街,有去无回。
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cjw065 发表于 2015-1-7 12:18
上次问了纽约的朋友也是没有消息。估计是因为涉及到太多警察,就暗地里偷偷处理了,受伤的陪些钱,但要求 ...

上次在飞机上不肯被强制换下飞机而被保安胖揍的亚裔教授也是选择了钱.

所以亚裔被欺负是因为只要有钱就可以摆平. 而不是站出来把事情掰扯清楚....

亚裔不会有马丁路德金这样的人物.  大多是喜欢闷声发小财之流...



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The United Airline case is very different.  The settlement was negotiated down from $140M law suit.  A reasonable guess is probably in 20-30M range.  I bet a lot people will take it as a fair settlement.  Plus UA did apologize, and there were enough coverage to raise the awareness. I am not sure what other better outcome can be.
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我搜到的一些文章的说法是defense of others的条件跟self defense一样,多搜了几步以后找到的是加州的PC 197(https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/197/
PC 197  Homicide is also justifiable when committed by any person in any of the following cases:

(1) When resisting any attempt to murder any person, or to commit a felony, or to do some great bodily injury upon any person.

(2) When committed in defense of habitation, property, or person, against one who manifestly intends or endeavors, by violence or surprise, to commit a felony, or against one who manifestly intends and endeavors, in a violent, riotous, or tumultuous manner, to enter the habitation of another for the purpose of offering violence to any person therein.

(3) When committed in the lawful defense of such person, or of a spouse, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant of such person, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to commit a felony or to do some great bodily injury, and imminent danger of such design being accomplished; but such person, or the person in whose behalf the defense was made, if he or she was the assailant or engaged in mutual combat, must really and in good faith have endeavored to decline any further struggle before the homicide was committed.

(4) When necessarily committed in attempting, by lawful ways and means, to apprehend any person for any felony committed, or in lawfully suppressing any riot, or in lawfully keeping and preserving the peace.


但是跟brandish有关的PC417反而只说了self-defense:
PENAL CODE - PEN
PART 1. OF CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS [25 - 680.4]  ( Part 1 enacted 1872. )  
TITLE 11. OF CRIMES AGAINST THE PUBLIC PEACE [403 - 420.1]  ( Title 11 enacted 1872. )  
417.  
(a) (1) Every person who, except in self-defense, in the presence of any other person, draws or exhibits any deadly weapon whatsoever, other than a firearm, in a rude, angry, or threatening manner, or who in any manner, unlawfully uses a deadly weapon other than a firearm in any fight or quarrel is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than 30 days.

(2) Every person who, except in self-defense, in the presence of any other person, draws or exhibits any firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, in a rude, angry, or threatening manner, or who in any manner, unlawfully uses a firearm in any fight or quarrel is punishable as follows:

(A) If the violation occurs in a public place and the firearm is a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than three months and not more than one year, by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment.

(B) In all cases other than that set forth in subparagraph (A), a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than three months.

(b) Every person who, except in self-defense, in the presence of any other person, draws or exhibits any loaded firearm in a rude, angry, or threatening manner, or who, in any manner, unlawfully uses any loaded firearm in any fight or quarrel upon the grounds of any day care center, as defined in Section 1596.76 of the Health and Safety Code, or any facility where programs, including day care programs or recreational programs, are being conducted for persons under 18 years of age, including programs conducted by a nonprofit organization, during the hours in which the center or facility is open for use, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months, or two or three years, or by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than three months, nor more than one year.

(c) Every person who, in the immediate presence of a peace officer, draws or exhibits any firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, in a rude, angry, or threatening manner, and who knows, or reasonably should know, by the officer’s uniformed appearance or other action of identification by the officer, that he or she is a peace officer engaged in the performance of his or her duties, and that peace officer is engaged in the performance of his or her duties, shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than nine months and not to exceed one year, or in the state prison for 16 months, or two or three years.

(d) Except where a different penalty applies, every person who violates this section when the other person is in the process of cleaning up graffiti or vandalism is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than three months nor more than one year.

(e) As used in this section, “peace officer” means any person designated as a peace officer pursuant to Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2.

(f) As used in this section, “public place” means any of the following:

(1) A public place in an incorporated city.

(2) A public street in an incorporated city.

(3) A public street in an unincorporated area.

(Amended by Stats. 2011, Ch. 15, Sec. 347. (AB 109) Effective April 4, 2011. Operative October 1, 2011, by Sec. 636 of Ch. 15, as amended by Stats. 2011, Ch. 39, Sec. 68.)


所以说不要折中,要么不管要么果断动手。
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