持刀威胁他人生命但最终没能实施，什么罪名？

Zerokirk

动手打人之后，拿刀指着对方说今天不是你死就是我死，对方有ccw而且带枪但没有亮家伙。最后刀被另外一个人夺下来，请问，这个应该怎么处理？应该是重罪了吧，案例在oh

东区小刀

至少夺刀的人救了他一命

cjw065

最多算battery， 算不上 attempted murder or assault. 因为没有实质上的伤人的行为， 只是说说而已。 如果有任何伤人的动作即使没有伤到人也会更严重些， 只是挥着刀叫唤不算。

Zerokirk

如果对方是美国警察就不一样了吧，会轰掉他吧

Colt1911

虽知道挥着刀走过来会发生什么事，应该毙掉吧

mica

个人一件：拿刀指着，并且有威胁性言语，被陪审团视同为即时威胁应该是大概率事件。没动手，不会按二级谋杀起诉；被打死，也是活该。

marboro

不知道俄州怎么样，加州肯定算是“Brandishing a weapon"，不要说拿出来了，放口袋里显出形状也算。目前是misdeameanor，三十天到一年，不算felony。

Penal code 417: ...“Every person who, except in self-defense, in the presence of any other person, draws or exhibits any deadly weapon whatsoever, other than a firearm, in a rude, angry, or threatening manner, or who in any manner, unlawfully uses a deadly weapon other than a firearm in any fight or quarrel is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than 30 days.”


不过真要起诉的话，一般不止一个罪名，威胁他人生命估计会加上"criminal threat" (Penal code 422)，这个反倒有可能是felony了。

pandamalone

如果是在佛州的话
又看了一下，完全可以起诉谋杀未遂

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Title XLVI CRIMES Chapter 782 HOMICIDE View Entire Chapter

[size=-1]782.051 Attempted felony murder.—(1) Any person who perpetrates or attempts to perpetrate any felony enumerated in s. 782.04(3) and who commits, aids, or abets an intentional act that is not an essential element of the felony and that could, but does not, cause the death of another commits a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life, or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, which is an offense ranked in level 9 of the Criminal Punishment Code. Victim injury points shall be scored under this subsection. (2) Any person who perpetrates or attempts to perpetrate any felony other than a felony enumerated in s. 782.04(3) and who commits, aids, or abets an intentional act that is not an essential element of the felony and that could, but does not, cause the death of another commits a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, which is an offense ranked in level 8 of the Criminal Punishment Code. Victim injury points shall be scored under this subsection. (3) When a person is injured during the perpetration of or the attempt to perpetrate any felony enumerated in s. 782.04(3) by a person other than the person engaged in the perpetration of or the attempt to perpetrate such felony, the person perpetrating or attempting to perpetrate such felony commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, which is an offense ranked in level 7 of the Criminal Punishment Code. Victim injury points shall be scored under this subsection.

这个应该属于agravated assault

3rd degree felony，五年以下有期徒刑加罚款

The 2016 Florida Statutes

Title XLVI CRIMES Chapter 784 ASSAULT; BATTERY; CULPABLE NEGLIGENCE View Entire Chapter [size=-1]784.021 Aggravated assault.—(1) An “aggravated assault” is an assault:(a) With a deadly weapon without intent to kill; or (b) With an intent to commit a felony. (2) Whoever commits an aggravated assault shall be guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

pandamalone

cjw065 发表于 2017-7-23 17:13
最多算battery， 算不上 attempted murder or assault. 因为没有实质上的伤人的行为， 只是说说而已。 如果 ...

看我贴的佛州州法原文

原本拿刀威胁人本身已经构成aggravated assault这是felony

再通过言语表达了杀人企图，da起诉attempted murder完全可以

最后怎么判看造化和花多少钱打官司呗

pandamalone

这个事情ccw的一方在对方接近试图动手的时候就应该口头警告并随时准备出枪了

如果在佛州换是我我会这样处理

如果对方掏刀，那就直接打，免得自己和家人回头后悔。

带枪不敢打，不如不带。像这种已经打人手上又有刀的，怎么打怎么有理，

而且最关键是刀捅死人也就需要一秒一刀就够了。为什么要让自己处于这种危险里？

chevoodoo

律师呢....

Wubidaochang

cjw065 发表于 2017-7-23 17:13
最多算battery， 算不上 attempted murder or assault. 因为没有实质上的伤人的行为， 只是说说而已。 如果 ...

主楼说了，已经动手打过人了。

Zerokirk

pandamalone 发表于 2017-7-23 19:04
这个事情ccw的一方在对方接近试图动手的时候就应该口头警告并随时准备出枪了

如果在佛州换是我我会这样处 ...

两人是亲戚关系，丈人发疯打女婿，打了一下脸。刀只是拿出来威胁了一下，还要开枪吗？

pandamalone

Zerokirk 发表于 2017-7-28 15:59
两人是亲戚关系，丈人发疯打女婿，打了一下脸。刀只是拿出来威胁了一下，还要开枪吗？
...

这是什么人啊

以后敬而远之别来忘了

sig2013

标准答案：离！