克隆版勃朗宁Hi-Power, 春田和土耳其的，都有严重的击锤打手

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https://www.fieldandstream.com/guns/best-handguns
The Best Centerfire Handguns of 2022
We spent a week—and shot thousands of rounds—testing every new-for-2022 handgun we could find. Here are the results


Field Stream 杂志测试了2022年的所有新推出的手枪。多人评测，每支枪至少几百发子弹。结果有一定的可比性，挺有意思。

这个论坛枪友最感兴趣的，可能是勃朗宁Hi-Power的克隆，Springfield SA-35的表现。

Springfield SA-35 (Score: 85.68)



PRICE: $699.00

Pros：
Elegant and classy appearance
Soft shooting

Cons：
Hammer bite
Non-ambidextrous safety


Though some reviews claim Springfield fixed the irritating hammer-bite of the HiPower, all our test shooters experienced it.
By outsourcing a partially completed frame and slide, Springfield was able to keep costs down on the SA-35 and still meet the “made in America” requirement—it costs about half of a used Browning HiPower in good condition.

所有测试者都发现Springfield SA-35有击锤打手的现象。
Springfield SA-35的价格，相比做工，确实特别好。这个杂志透露，Springfield 进口了枪身和Slide半成品。最有可能是克罗地亚生产XD的工厂，也可能是土耳其的工厂，也可能是巴西菲律宾等其他地方。

土耳其的枪械在这次评比中表现非常好。其实，土耳其最好的手枪，Canik, 还没有包括在这次评比当中。

EAA MC P35 (Score: 85.64)



Price: $567.0

Pros：
Price

Cons：
Hammer bite
Magazine-disconnect safety


EAA’s MC P35 is a close copy of the Browning HiPower and includes the magazine disconnect safety—the pistol will not fire without a magazine inserted. Owners often disable this feature to improve the trigger pull. Also, because of the magazine disconnect, the magazines will not drop free. The MC P35’s trigger had some gritty take-up but broke cleanly, and all shooters experienced some hammer bite, which is common with the HiPower.
The pistol is manufactured in Turkey by Girsan, and all the shooters were impressed by its quality.
The pistol proved to be 100 percent reliable.



黑色的 P35, 照片上看不出有什么做工上的问题。这家杂志的评测者，都觉得做工很不错。

easycity

这家杂志的评测方法挺有道理的。
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Two of our shooters tested every handgun for precision by shooting three, 5-shot groups from a sandbag rest at 10 yards, with at least two different loads. Then, working from holsters, we ran each gun through a series of timed defensive drills. The first was a 6-shot rendition of the El-Prez Drill without a reload. The goal in this drill was to get two hits each on three IPSC-size silhouette targets at 10 yards as fast as possible. This drill allowed us to evaluate how well we could transition between the targets with each handgun while getting fast hits along the way.
The second drill was a version of the Failure Drill. Normally, this drill requires double-tapping a torso target at five yards twice, evaluating the effects, and then firing a head shot if needed. We modified the drill to help us better evaluate our interface with each handgun while under pressure, and strived for a par time of 2 seconds. After drawing the gun, we hammered two quick shots to the torso and then—as fast as possible—made a precision shot on a swinging head-plate.
The third drill was my standard evaluation drill when evaluating defensive handguns. Called the Forty-Five Drill, it requires you to draw from the holster and fire five shots into a 5-inch circle at 5 yards in less than 5 seconds. This drill is a great measure of how hard the recoil of a handgun is to control. But at the same time, it requires a shooter to see the sights and deliver fast and accurate hits. It’s a drill where easy-shooting guns with good sights stand out.


We fired a minimum of 200 rounds through each handgun. For those that we wanted to investigate further, that had a stoppage, or that we really enjoyed shooting, we fired two to three times that much. All the drills were scored, and we then awarded points in the following categories:

Precision/Accuracy (1-15 points)
Practical Drill Performance (1-15 points)
Suitability for Self-Defense/Carry (1-10 points)
Quality (1-10 points)
Shooting Comfort/Shooter Interface (1-10 points)
Holster Availability (1-5 points)
Reliability (30 points)
Value (1-5 points)

We added everything up for a possible total of 100.


我不知道这么多种类的实弹测试，到底怎么回事。只是觉得两个射手进行这么多不同类型的实弹测试，而且都是计时的，应该比网上看到的大部分测试要全面。
而且两个人，背靠背评测这么多手枪，应该可以得到比较靠谱的相对结果。

easycity

这次评测，最让人动心的，是价格绝对可以降到三百美元的Tauraus GX4, 以及三千美元的Wilson Combat 便携式9mm 1911.
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Best Value: Taurus GX4 (Score: 88.25)



Price: $468

Pros：
Price
Modular grip and optics ready

Cons：
Field-strip requires a screwdriver


At only 6 inches long and 4.4 inches high, it is an amazingly compact, and lightweight pistol.
However, with its easy-to-see sights, it was very manageable on all the practical drills and scored fourth place overall in that category.
Stacked up against all the other handguns in the test, this pistol ranked third, and had a best-of-the-test score of 4.64 points out of 5 on the value scale.
We experienced no stoppages with the GX4.

这家杂志拿到的这支枪，表现太出色了。没有卡壳的问题。轻薄短小，后坐力还能够掌控。在实弹战术射击中，取得第四名的好成绩。这么一支小枪，在参与评测的这么多奢侈品级手枪和全尺寸手枪中间，能够在射击性能上夺的第四名，简直是一个奇迹。
GX4有扳机保险，放在枪套里，上膛随身携带，安全性应该是不用担心的。

Editors’ Pick: Wilson Combat SFX9 (Score: 90.16)



Price: $2,995

Pros：
Quality of construction
User interface

Cons：
Expensive


All involved considered the SFX9 as the most suitable pistol we tested for concealed carry and felt it had the best shooter interface. It also performed the best on all the defensive drills. In terms of construction quality, it tied with the Korth Revolver as the best of the bunch.

除了价钱，其他无懈可击。
有一个笑话，就是说，携带手枪出门的人，其实心里面压根就认为没有机会用上这支手枪。如果有一丝疑虑，担心可能要用枪的，就应该带上AR或者大容量散弹枪了。觉得真有可能用枪的，就不应该出门了。实在有出门的必要，那一定是上亿美元的生意，白道生意或者黑道生意，都应该带保镖，开装甲车或者防弹轿车，架上重机枪。
有了这个Wilson Combat，有一丝疑虑可能要用枪的，就可以花三千美元，带上这个。认为压根就没有机会用枪，但是需要带一支手枪的，可以考虑Taurus GX4.

双筒

光把击锤换成ring hammer不能解决咬手的问题，这是从二战的时候用大威力的人就知道的。 实际上很多人反应ring hammer比spur hammer其实咬手的可能性更高。 大威力咬手有两个方面，一是直接击锤翘起的末端打到虎口的皮肉上；二是击锤杆跟枪身末梢（海狸尾）把肉夹住了。 所以想彻底解决大威力的打手问题（在无法改动海狸尾的前提下），必须重新设计击锤的形状，一是让其末端翘起来更高更远，无法够到虎口；二是改变击锤杆中部的形状，让其与海狸尾上部之间有更大的空间，可以让更多的肉（更胖的手）挤进去还不至于夹痛。 这样的设计我只知道Cylinder & Slide一家公司是一直在卖，而且他们的击锤硬度更大，跟FN的阻铁一起工作能让阻铁提前磨损，所以他们建议你击锤阻铁一起换，一下子就是一百多块。。。

svchw

$699还不如添点钱买一把品相好的比利时军剩正统大威力。

lelexiao12

Browning设计的明锤手枪有谁不咬手？这么想，比勃朗宁他爸打他手的时候轻多了，就心里安慰了

easycity

lelexiao12 发表于 2022-5-22 07:05
Browning设计的明锤手枪有谁不咬手？这么想，比勃朗宁他爸打他手的时候轻多了，就心里安慰了 ...

这倒是提醒我了。勃朗宁设计的1911，原版就有打手的问题。幸好1911可以换Beaver Tail 的Grip Safety.
土耳其的Hi-Power, 促销到过四百美元。要是以后还能到这个价，买一支试一试也是可以的。

easycity

这篇文章介绍勃朗宁 Hi-Power，情怀满满。
从照片上看，Springfield SA-35 外表稍微漂亮一点。土耳其的MC P35 也很好。

https://freerangeamerican.us/browning-hi-power-reborn/
BROWNING HI-POWER REBORN: HOW 3 NEW, UPDATED VERSIONS STACK UP

heavypanzer

击锤夹手，加海狸尾，如还不够，加大狸尾

CiTY_HuNTeR

heavypanzer 发表于 2022-5-25 01:19
击锤夹手，加海狸尾，如还不够，加大狸尾

对啊，就是海狸尾还不够大嘛

Jet

CiTY_HuNTeR 发表于 2022-5-25 00:55
对啊，就是海狸尾还不够大嘛

都打肉了，为什么不加长海狸尾巴呢？

双筒

heavypanzer 发表于 2022-5-25 00:19
击锤夹手，加海狸尾，如还不够，加大狸尾

大威力不是1911，不能换海狸尾啊，除非是焊上去的，那是永久性改造枪身，首先warranty就void了，更不用说价钱，还有让谁来焊接打磨，看上去是不是能天衣无缝，还是弄巧成拙。。。

CiTY_HuNTeR

双筒 发表于 2022-5-25 02:47
大威力不是1911，不能换海狸尾啊，除非是焊上去的，那是永久性改造枪身，首先warranty就void了，更不用说 ...

原厂就应该加大，反正结构本身也已经变了不少了

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CiTY_HuNTeR 发表于 2022-5-25 13:58
原厂就应该加大，反正结构本身也已经变了不少了

这只能怪FN自己分不清主次。勃老头把大威力给了FN，没有跟柯尔特分享，他们可以随便改，结果第一个想起来改的不是beaver tail，是拉壳钩。没人抱怨内置的拉壳钩不好用，1911上到现在还在用呢。 如果他们先把咬手的毛病修好了，大威力可能会更流行，毕竟自己改的话只有cylinder and slide可以选，然后就是焊一个额外的尾巴上去了。这也可以看出来FN从大威力以后就没做出几款成功的手枪的原因：不知道顾客想要什么，或者不会宣传。80年代人人都做wonder nine的时候，格牢靠被雷打都赚翻了，FN搞出个双动版的大威力，结果failed一塌糊涂，后来接着出来的49更烂，直到FNP出来了才稳住阵脚，别人已经早就move on了。。。