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ATF 对非移民签证持枪问题

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 楼主| 发表于 2022-7-14 19:38 | 只看该作者
case closed. 翻了一天的法律条文,终于让我找到了atf 关于reside的定义了。
EXAMPLE 3.

A, an alien, travels to the United States on a three-week vacation to State X. A does not have a state of residence in State X because A does not have the intention of making a home in State X while on vacation. This is true regardless of the length of the vacation.

EXAMPLE 4.

A, an alien, travels to the United States to work for three years in State X. A rents a home in State X, moves his personal possessions into the home, and his family resides with him in the home. A intends to reside in State X during the 3-year period of his employment. A is a resident of State X.

这是他给的两个例子。也就是说你在这个州事实意义上住下了,你就算reside在这个州。
下面是定义

State of residence.
The State in which an individual resides. An individual resides in a State if he or she is present in a State with the intention of making a home in that State. If an individual is on active duty as a member of the Armed Forces, the individual's State of residence is the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located, as stated in 18 U.S.C. 921(b). The following are examples that illustrate this definition:
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 楼主| 发表于 2022-7-14 19:56 | 只看该作者
再补一句,感觉这里的residence更贴近于jurisdiction上面的residence,有种法律上你归谁管你就是那的residence。所以从这个角度看,az那个事件的留学生买residence HL是符合联邦层面定义的residence,但是恰巧州层面不认可,所以导致州层面买residence HL 违法,进而导致以此购买的枪支不合法。

通俗来讲就是,atf说虽然我觉得你是residence,但是az说你不是,而你的hl又是az州发的,那你就得买人家的non residence HL,你现在买了residence hl,那就构成州层面上的欺诈违法,然后用有问题的hl来买枪,那虽然现在你residence没问题,但你hl有问题了呀。。。虽然自始至终我一直觉得你是residence。。。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 2022-7-14 20:32 | 只看该作者
noghsot 发表于 2022-7-14 08:35
接着帖子咨询一个问题:
如果不是学生身份,而是B1/B2身份,在6个月的有效居住期内,是否被认为resident ...

兄弟我在另外一个帖子发了完整解释,你可以去看看
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