９mm比.45 停止力更强?

QuiMi

不时看见有人写文章，反复论证９mm不比.45 停止力差。甚至还有说９mm比.45 停止力更强的。我从来不信这种＂论证＂。看看两种弹头的对比就一目了然：

毫无疑问，９mm有很多优势，便宜，载弹量大，后座力小容易控制，等等。只要打得准，点２２也比打不准的马格南强。这都没错。只是非得证明小口径比大口径更厉害，感觉就有点扯了。看看这图，你愿意挨哪种子弹？

FJC

http://www.qiangyou.org/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=439

brucewayne

原文说的没错啊，哪里说停止力更强了？

Laou168

俺坚信口径越大威力越大。当然其它条件要一样。

mpc8240

FJC 发表于 2015-1-29 09:18
http://www.qiangyou.org/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=439

What's the conclusion? Gold Dot's 9mm is almost as good as its .45ACP?

m429529

这俩子弹我哪个都不愿意挨

alex

还没买过.45 jhp的飘过。。。。

jhe123

我想你是误会了，单个子弹比较时没有人会说9mm比.45强。但在实战中综合考虑各种因素，很多人会选择9mm而不是.45。

美国考拉

我也觉得哪个我都不愿意挨

Will

我愿让对方挨子弹，图左那种

coflyer

想着这狰狞的弹头在肉里高速旋转，翻滚, 变形，切割，造成各种空腔啥的，就觉得疼阿。

gggghbr

我是这么解读的：
1。手枪弹停止力都是渣。
2。.45开花比9mm大一点，但对停止力的影响基本可以忽略。（原因参见第一条)
3。9mm可以多携带50%，这个区别是巨大的。

luckyshooter

数据 http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/a ... dgun-stopping-power
9mm Luger                    
# of people shot - 456
# of hits - 1121
% of hits that were fatal - 24%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 2.45
% of people who were not incapacitated - 13%
One-shot-stop % - 34%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 74%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 47%
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.40 S&W                    
# of people shot - 188
# of hits - 443
% of hits that were fatal - 25%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 2.36
% of people who were not incapacitated - 13%
One-shot-stop % - 45%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 76%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 52%
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.45 ACP                    
# of people shot - 209
# of hits - 436
% of hits that were fatal - 29%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 2.08
% of people who were not incapacitated - 14%
One-shot-stop % - 39%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 85%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 51%
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Head shots = 75% immediate incapacitation
Torso shots = 41% immediate incapacitation
Extremity shots (arms and legs) = 14% immediate incapacitation.

luckyshooter

不是小口径比大口径更厉害, 而是大口径不一定比小口径更有效

ns66

luckyshooter 发表于 2015-1-29 12:58
数据 http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
9mm Luger                  ...

这个数据符合我一贯观点，就是从手枪弹升级到步枪弹才是有实际意义的，同类的弹差别不大

davidd

luckyshooter

ns66 发表于 2015-1-29 13:31
这个数据符合我一贯观点，就是从手枪弹升级到步枪弹才是有实际意义的，同类的弹差别不大

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作者对.25 .32 .44 mag口径的数据的解释是数据不够多
"I also believe the data for the .25, .32 and .44 magnum should be viewed with suspicion. I simply don't have enough data (in comparison to the other calibers) to draw an accurate comparison. I reported the data I have, but I really don't believe that a .32 ACP incapacitates people at a higher rate than the .45 ACP!"

Laou168

俺相信能量+准头。不分长短，