308 Winchester与30 06 Springfield恩仇录, 究竟该选谁?

rqg0717

后坐力呢？还有一个个人感兴趣的问题 如果打熊 请问首选哪个？

dingge

ca1903

引述的文章最後關於精度的比較很有爭議。

我看過一位1000碼射擊的老鳥，比較下來，3006與308的精度在伯仲之間。1000碼還是3006要準點。文章要花時間找找。他是在幾百發以上比賽的結果來做比較。兩者用的槍管也是類似，etc。所有比較3006與308精度裡我見過最好，數據最全的文章。

HRQYH

.308的槍，換個long action 能打30 06的彈嗎？

sunnyboy007

HRQYH 发表于 2016-3-30 14:26
.308的槍，換個long action 能打30 06的彈嗎？

理论上要换枪管。。。枪栓应该是一样的

HRQYH

sunnyboy007 发表于 2016-3-30 14:36
理论上要换枪管。。。枪栓应该是一样的

由于chamber 不夠長？

Huntington

很长知识

sunnyboy007

HRQYH 发表于 2016-3-30 14:40
由于chamber 不夠長？

对，不然合不上枪栓

黑咖啡

ca1903 发表于 2016-3-30 14:24
引述的文章最後關於精度的比較很有爭議。

我看過一位1000碼射擊的老鳥，比較下來，3006與308的精度在伯仲 ...

的确是这样，　３０８　和３０　０６　的争论就从没停止过。　我引用的文章是作者以ＮＲＡ顶级比赛射手的射击总成绩作为基础写下的，只能说反映了当时的情况，时隔很多年，弹药生产商在材料工艺上也有不断的改进，应该说现在３０８　和　３００６在精确度方面的差距缩小很多。
谢谢你分享你的观点和经验

黑咖啡

rqg0717 发表于 2016-3-30 13:53
后坐力呢？还有一个个人感兴趣的问题 如果打熊 请问首选哪个？

后座力３００６大很多。打４００磅以下的黑熊，３０８，３００６都没问题

ca1903

http://riflemansjournal.blogspot ... y-308-vs-30-06.html

by German Salazar

Mid-Range Comparison
In NRA Mid-Range matches (500 and 600 yards), the average score and percentage of possible score for each cartridge was as follows:

.308 - 597-36X (99.5%) 960 rounds fired
.30-06 -  595-31X (99.2%) 2580 rounds fired

Long-Range Comparison
I rarely shoot the .308 in matches that are only 1000 yards; most of my 1000 yard .308 shooting is done in Palma matches which include 800, 900 and 1000 yards. As most of you know, the .30-06 and 6XC can't be used in Palma matches. This creates a small difficulty in score comparisons because Palma matches have 15 shot stages and 1000 yard matches have 20 shot stages. To make the comparison useful, the Long-Range results are presented only as a percentage of the possible score and the 800 and 900 yard stages of Palma matches were not included in the comparison (although they are shown in the charts, they were not used in calculating the averages).

In NRA Long-Range and Palma matches, the average percentage of possible score for each cartridge at 1000 yards was as follows:

.30-06 - 97.7%, 460 rounds fired
.308 - 97.3%, 490 rounds fired

As you can see, the .308 went from the top of the list at Mid-Range to the bottom at Long-Range. This isn't too surprising when one considers its limited case capacity for the bullet weights typically used in Long-Range shooting. They just run out of steam and dip perilously close to the transonic range as they approach 1000 yards of flight (see this earlier article for more information on transonic problems). The extra 150 fps or so that can be safely obtained from the .30-06 case really pays off at 1000 yards.

firerain

区别可忽略

吃人鲨鱼

既然区别可忽略，那哪个便宜量足？

leohe8888

子弹价格也差不多，还是喜欢.308w多一点，后坐力小很多更容易控制补枪，靶场里一天打上几百发跟什么事都没发生过一样。