revolver bad for security guards

uper

too few rounds and almost always multiple attackers, sad to see him die because of this,  

idee

Wow. I suppose the takeaways are:
- I guess it's .38 special - the first bad guy got shot multiple times and could still tackle the good guy. .357 would save him a few rounds.
- ammo capacity matters when there are multiple bad guys

uper

idee 发表于 2019-11-16 21:20
Wow. I suppose the takeaways are:
- I guess it's .38 special - the first bad guy got shot multiple t ...

I agree

better with at least 15 round pistol, so, basically no revolver, or get really good at shooting, like John Wick,

Zn2011

uper 发表于 2019-11-16 22:41
I agree

better with at least 15 round pistol, so, basically no revolver, or get really good at sho ...

just one shot from John wick  3,i think

idee

Zn2011 发表于 2019-11-16 19:59
just one shot from John wick  3,i think

unless John Wick shoots .38 special

uper

idee 发表于 2019-11-16 23:10
unless John Wick shoots .38 special

左轮还不用大子弹。也不穿防弹衣，不知道他怎么想，尤其从事这个职业。

双筒

跟revolver没关系，拿个小的单排9毫米口袋枪也是同样情况。 Clint Smith早就说过，不管是5发还是50或500发的弹匣，最后你总会碰到empty的时候。 左轮枪就是发生的早一点，所以用枪人的mindset需要调整一下。  像视频里那种以一打多的情况，想绝对取胜得是John Wick了：

idee

uper 发表于 2019-11-16 20:44
左轮还不用大子弹。也不穿防弹衣，不知道他怎么想，尤其从事这个职业。

因为极少发生。我从一个security guard手里买过一把.38spl，是他的执勤枪，除了靶场从来没用过。大概过去.38spl是可以接受的，今天人脂肪层太厚了

双筒

idee 发表于 2019-11-17 00:03

今天人脂肪层太厚了

Ballistic gel模拟的是相对来说的worst case scenario啊，模拟人的肌肉组织。 虽然比起骨头来“抗子弹”能力要差点儿，但跟脂肪或肥肉比起来要紧密厚实的多，所以肥肉的防弹能力应该不如同样厚度的肌肉（所以真正worst case应该在战术胶里插几根猪腿骨）。。。

spine

看到这个帖子想起另一个帖子作者很喜欢推左轮和.22

https://www.6parkbbs.com/index.php?app=index&act=view&cid=872373

https://www.6parkbbs.com/index.php?app=index&act=view&cid=864338

terminal2000

这真是哈哈哈了。.22别的不说，光看那个大小，直接就把它可以pass掉了。
因为便宜打打玩还好了。
只能说，不管啥玩意儿都比没枪好。但也仅仅是比没枪好。

uper

双筒 发表于 2019-11-17 00:02
跟revolver没关系，拿个小的单排9毫米口袋枪也是同样情况。 Clint Smith早就说过，不管是5发还是50或500发 ...

but, but, 15 and 6 is very different.  For this particular case, If the guard had used a glock 19 with 15 rounds, he would have had a much better chance to survive.  Of course, if there are more attackers, like 10, he will lose for sure.

uper

idee 发表于 2019-11-17 00:03
因为极少发生。我从一个security guard手里买过一把.38spl，是他的执勤枪，除了靶场从来没用过。大概过去 ...

in us, yes, it is rare, but, the guard obviously had not watched john's active self protection, almost half of the cases are from his home country - brazil, the capital of armed robery of the whole world.

ms86

idee:
- I guess it's .38 special - the first bad guy got shot multiple times and could still tackle the good guy. .357 would save him a few rounds.

Agree! But, as a guard, I prefer 15 rounds for sure.

JasonXieyf

直接上III级UHMWPE板+SBR也重不了多少。。。

biker

TRR8 + 357 Mag

Huntington

uper 发表于 2019-11-16 19:41
I agree

better with at least 15 round pistol, so, basically no revolver, or get really good at sho ...

对付这种级别的选手，John Wick不需要枪

jhe123

Huntington 发表于 2019-11-17 10:25
对付这种级别的选手，John Wick不需要枪

yup, a pencil should be more than enough

无语

双筒 发表于 2019-11-16 21:02
跟revolver没关系，拿个小的单排9毫米口袋枪也是同样情况。 Clint Smith早就说过，不管是5发还是50或500发 ...

是的，上班执勤跟平民自卫，完全是不同性质的两个事，口袋枪也不过7发。
亚特兰大那个女老板的格牢靠也只装了6发子弹，结果1对3完胜。

Zn2011

无语 发表于 2019-11-17 23:27
是的，上班执勤跟平民自卫，完全是不同性质的两个事，口袋枪也不过7发。
亚特兰大那个女老板的 ...

我记得是S&W 的, 型号好像是SD9肯定不是GLOCK