What Happens When You Load Pistol Powder in a Rifle Cartridge

graycat2006 · 发表于 2016-3-30 07:26

This is a grim tale. A man almost lost the use of his right hand, and did suffer terrible injuries to his fingers. All because he picked the wrong bottle of powder off the shelf.

Similar Labels, Disasterous Consequences
The shooter, Denny K., was assembling some rounds for his brand new 7mm-08 Savage hunting rifle. He thought he was loading with Hodgdon Varget. Instead he had filled his powder measure with Hodgdon TiteGroup, a fast-burning pistol powder. The labels are similar, so the mistake is understandable. But the results were devastating. Here’s what 41 grains of TiteGroup can do in a 7mm-08:

annieli · 发表于 2016-3-30 07:33

这个结果比blaser好太多了， just saying...

X-PGH · 发表于 2016-3-30 08:13

Geeeeeee, that hurts ..... !

QuiMi · 发表于 2016-3-30 08:23

４１grain 是差不多十发点４５弹的药量。这威力可想而知。

满地找牙 · 发表于 2016-3-30 08:24

恐怖

军火大a · 发表于 2016-3-30 08:29

annieli 发表于 2016-3-30 07:33
这个结果比blaser好太多了， just saying...

炸blaser求图

QuiMi · 发表于 2016-3-30 08:32

步枪药是圆柱形，手枪药是片状，搞混的原因还是人的问题。

复装最重要的步骤是上完药后用手电照着检查一遍。一看便知。

calendar · 发表于 2016-3-30 08:46

好吓人。
买的子弹不会有这种问题吧？

HRQYH · 发表于 2016-3-30 09:01

吃錯藥了，通常是因為，藥瓶子之間不容易識別，從而混淆了。特別是這里的藥瓶子，都TM一個樣兒。只能是看標簽兒。還得看準嘍。

idee · 发表于 2016-3-30 09:45

QuiMi 发表于 2016-3-30 08:32
步枪药是圆柱形，手枪药是片状，搞混的原因还是人的问题。

复装最重要的步骤是上完药后用手电照着检查一遍 ...

没reload过所以没看懂，药不都是粉状吗？

kopje · 发表于 2016-3-30 09:46

"The labels are similar, so the mistake is understandable." 这个一点也不可以理解明显他是看都没看抓起瓶子就下药

annieli · 发表于 2016-3-30 09:50

本帖最后由 annieli 于 2016-3-30 09:54 编辑

军火大a 发表于 2016-3-30 08:29
炸blaser求图

graphic warning, dont look if you have a faint heart.

http://www.thestalkingdirectory. ... er-R93-or-Not/page6

if something does go wrong on a conventional bolt action rifle it normally blows just in front of the chamber so at worse you loss a finger or two, but when a Blaser goes tits up you loose half your head. So I like life too much to risk using a Blaser.

What he said.

军火大a · 发表于 2016-3-30 10:07

idee 发表于 2016-3-30 09:45
没reload过所以没看懂，药不都是粉状吗？

这条经验不靠谱，H好多新步枪药是圆粒的。

军火大a · 发表于 2016-3-30 10:09

annieli 发表于 2016-3-30 09:50
graphic warning, dont look if you have a faint heart.

http://www.thestalkingdirectory. ... er-R93- ...

还好我是Blaser hater

zhangaa · 发表于 2016-3-30 10:21

貌似槍管還能用。。。

graycat2006 · 发表于 2016-3-30 10:21

annieli 发表于 2016-3-30 09:50
graphic warning, dont look if you have a faint heart.

http://www.thestalkingdirectory. ... er-R93- ...

这个评价有意思:

Blasers are the Harley Davidsons of the world, owned by millions of accountants, doctors and lawyers who are living the dream.

If you want a saddle bag for your Harley and you want it from Harley Davidson you will pay six times as much for the next best equivalent in the market place. Why? Because you are living the dream and are a proud owner of Harley Davidson....

They just aren't worth it.

Mungler, ex Harley and ex R93 owner

Philippshen · 发表于 2016-3-30 11:09

titegroup还真不是一般的hot，我试过9mm load 4.2gr，枪管积铅急增啊

军火大a · 发表于 2016-3-30 12:17

graycat2006 发表于 2016-3-30 10:21
这个评价有意思:

Blasers are the Harley Davidsons of the world, owned by millions of accountants, ...

Blaser定义就是奢侈品，和哈雷还不太一样。应该和LV的包，劳力士的表之类的比。

heavypanzer · 发表于 2016-3-30 14:46

annieli 发表于 2016-3-30 09:50
graphic warning, dont look if you have a faint heart.

http://www.thestalkingdirectory. ... er-R93- ...

conventional bolt action rifle上手枪药炸的时候都是毁掉整个action破片四散，bolt笔直往后，枪管笔直往前飞，blaser仅仅是因为没有action所以就是bolt和枪管分离前后两头飞，和普通action比起来就是单纯流星锤和流星锤+破片手雷的区别。
毕竟普通手枪药要在步枪上用，出来的膛压至少也是五六十万PSI起跳，就算号称最强action能扛20万PSI的MarkV碰上了都得炸的粉碎。所以这样的事故死人很常见，不死而只是重伤的可以算是命大。

我觉得同时reload手枪和步枪弹而且不注意火药型号的人都得列入达尔文奖候选人名单。

heavypanzer · 发表于 2016-3-30 14:50

graycat2006 发表于 2016-3-30 10:21
这个评价有意思:

Blasers are the Harley Davidsons of the world, owned by millions of accountants, ...

我觉得这个评价是高估哈雷，哈雷和美式定制R700衍生结构的精射步枪差不多。Blaser则明显是保时捷，相对其他同类产品的价格，市场定位，配件选择，营销策略甚至用户群都高度重合。

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