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发表于 2015-10-28 06:37 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
Lyons OKs 'unprecedented' gun shop regulations

In an attempt to curb the number of illegal firearms that flow from southwest suburban Lyons to Chicago, the village passed an ordinance Tuesday requiring its lone gun shop to keep extensive records of the weapons it sells and to report unusual activity to local authorities.

Midwest Sporting Goods, which has operated a gun store in Lyons for more than 50 years, must follow an unprecedented set of rules, such as maintaining a "do not sell" list of customers whose weapons have been traced to a crime. In addition, the gun shop will have to report to authorities the names of anyone who attempts to purchase a gun illegally.

The ordinance was passed as part of a settlement in a lawsuit filed in July by Chicago anti-gun activists who claim that Lyons is one of three suburbs from which a disproportionate number of guns are recovered at crime scenes in Chicago. The other two suburbs — Riverdale and Lincolnwood — were not part of the settlement, and the lawsuit against them continues in Cook County Circuit Court.

The settlement comes in the midst of ongoing battles over gun control in Illinois, pitting those who claim that greater restrictions and oversight over gun purchases is essential to curbing violence against those who insist that strict laws violate Second Amendment rights. Some officials called aspects of the agreement "unprecedented."

"This is about being practical and proactive to prevent the sale of guns to the wrong people," said Lyons Mayor Christopher Getty. "The village stands firmly behind our gun shop. We believe they are great operators, but at the same time we did feel more regulation was required."

Attorney Michael Persoon, who represents the lawsuit's plaintiff, the Coalition for Safe Chicago Communities, said Lyons would be dropped from litigation.

"This ordinance shows that once again there is no problem that is so intractable that we can't do something about it when we put our mind to it as a society," Persoon said. "What it takes is the political courage to confront a problem and the political will to do something about it."

The coalition, whose members include activists such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger and Annette Nance-Holt, a Chicago mother whose teenage son was killed on a CTA bus in 2007, filed the lawsuit to target straw buyers and gun trafficking. The ordinance, however, goes beyond what was sought in the lawsuit, officials said.

Effective immediately, the gun shop will have to keep electronic records of anyone who purchases more than one firearm within a 12-month period. All records and documents, including completed forms, must be turned over to local law enforcement within 48 hours if the gun shop dealer determines that the potential buyer is not a "valid or lawful" purchaser.

In addition, the law requires the shop to maintain a digital "do not sell" list of people who purchased a gun that was later traced to a crime. Each gun shop employee must hold a valid firearms owner's identification card. And the shop must audit all inventory and report any loss or discrepancy to the village within 48 hours of discovery.

The ordinance also requires local law enforcement, with the help of the Cook County sheriff's office, to conduct two inspections a year at the gun shop, in addition to the annual inspection by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The gun shop also will be required to install sufficient exterior lighting, surveillance cameras, cameras reporting the point of sale and alarm systems.

Failure to comply could result in a fine, suspension or revocation of the business license.

An ATF study in 2012 found that 29 percent of the guns recovered on Chicago's streets from 2008 to the end of March 2012 were bought in Cook County's suburbs. A gun store in Lyons and another in Riverdale accounted for more than 10 percent of those guns.

Getty said the village was careful not to do anything that would put the longtime family-owned gun shop out of business. He said Midwest was receptive to village officials as they crafted the ordinance.

In a statement, the company said it was committed to working with the village.

"Under the new Lyons ordinance, we look forward to cooperating fully with the Lyons Police Department and all enforcement agencies to identify, report and ferret out any improprieties relating to firearms," Midwest said in the statement posted on its website. "We welcome all lawful purchasers of sporting good to our business. We warn any persons who do not intend to follow all lawful procedures to stay away."

Village Attorney Burton Odelson said the National Rifle Association helped advise Midwest as officials crafted the new ordinance.

However, Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association, said he doesn't support the ordinance and is concerned that there are pitfalls in it for dealers and buyers, particularly with the "do not sell" list.

"That person may not have had anything to do with the crime. Maybe their firearm was stolen," said Pearson, referring to someone whose gun may have been used in a crime. "Legitimate gun owners could go on the list and they didn't do anything wrong."

While the sheriff's office was not involved in the settlement negotiations, it has agreed to work with the village and the Police Department in carrying out aspects of the ordinance, according to Cara Smith, chief strategist for Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart.

"The village is enacting an ordinance that will provide for unprecedented additional oversight over gun shops in the village of Lyons," Smith said. "Certainly the gun dealers our office have worked with in no way want to be associated with the violence that wreaks havoc on our streets. This ordinance positions them as a very responsible law-abiding gun dealer."

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关于这个蠢到极点的lawsuit。这是准备把厨子县所有的gun shop都赶走的前奏。
Lawsuit pressures Chicago suburbs to tighten gun shop regulations

Activists filed a lawsuit against three of Chicago's suburbs that they say are the source of a disproportionate number of guns recovered from Chicago crime scenes.

Chicago mothers who lost family members to gun violence, the Rev. Michael Pfleger and members of the Coalition for Safe Chicago Communities are named as plaintiffs in the lawsuit against the villages of Riverdale, Lyons and Lincolnwood filed Tuesday in Cook County Circuit Court. They stood in a chapel at United Methodist Church in Chicago on Tuesday to announce the lawsuit.

"This is a civil rights lawsuit to stop the export of guns from the suburbs into Chicago's African-American neighborhoods," said one of the attorneys who filed the suit, Michael Persoon.

Unlike the states of California and New York, Illinois does not regulate gun dealers but leaves it to local municipalities, according to the suit, which draws extensively from a May 2014 report issued by the city of Chicago titled "Tracing the Guns: The Impact of Illegal Guns on Violence in Chicago."

That report said just four local dealers — one each in Riverdale, Lyons and Lincolnwood — supplied almost 20 percent of the guns recovered at Chicago crime scenes. The fourth dealer, not named in the suit, was located in Gary, the report said.

Although dealers often follow federal and state law by conducting background checks and checking a buyer's firearm owner's identification card, the suit claims that the three towns in question do not have the kind of comprehensive municipal codes and ordinances recommended by the report and adopted by Chicago to curtail the flow of guns to traffickers.

"Some dealers are willing to look the other way and make sales even when they suspect the buyer is a straw purchaser for illegal users or minors," the lawsuit said.

A spokesman for Lyons said that it had not seen the lawsuit but that the village follows federal law.

"Lyons has worked with the Chicago Police Department in the past," said Ray Hanania, president and CEO of Urban Strategies Group, who handles media inquiries for Lyons and other governments. "We have addressed issues with them, and we monitor this gun shop all the time. And they follow the letter of the law, federal law."

The villages of Riverdale and Lincolnwood declined to comment.

The lawsuit suggests six steps as outlined in the report to avoid selling to a straw purchaser, including: mandating background checks for all gun store employees; deterring theft through adequate surveillance and exterior lighting; training managers and employees to identify signs of straw purchasing; requiring dealers to maintain an alphabetical log of all gun sales where the gun was later recovered at a crime; requiring mandatory inspections of a store's inventory to help detect theft and trafficking of guns; and requiring video cameras to record the point of sale to discourage buyers who may use false identification.

New York adopted some of these practices at 20 dealers and cut the flow of crime-linked guns from those stores by 85 percent, according to the suit.

"It's quite obvious we've got to do something more than we've done in the past," said Annette Nance-Holt, a Chicago mother of a teen who was killed in 2007 as he rode a CTA bus.

The victims of the crimes in which guns from these suburban stores are used are overwhelmingly African American, according to the suit. The suit was brought under the Illinois Civil Rights Act of 2003, claiming that the cities are allowing gun shops to sell in a manner that disproportionately jeopardizes the lives of African Americans.

Experts in gun law, however, were skeptical of the legal merits of the suit.

The stores identified likely are some of the larger stores in the area, said John R. Lott Jr., president of Crime Prevention Research Center, a nonprofit research organization.

"My guess is if you were to look, you'd find that those stores are selling probably close to 20 percent of the guns in the area," Lott said.

This suit is likely going after municipalities because it can't go after the stores themselves, according to George Mocsary, a law professor at Southern Illinois University who specializes in firearms law.

Chicago was one of several cities that filed lawsuits against the gun industry in the 1990s. In response, Congress passed the Protection of Commerce and Lawful Arms Act in 2005 to protect gun manufacturers, most of whom are small businesses, from predatory lawsuits, Mocsary said.

"Congress thought that wasn't right ... the fact that the suit would cost manufacturers enough to put them out of business," Mocsary said.

Also, for a civil rights claim to work, there generally has to be an intent to harm a particular individual or community, in this case African-Americans, which Mocsary doubts will be found here.

"I suspect that it will be dismissed," he said.
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发表于 2015-10-28 06:54 | 只看该作者
是不是也应该控告罪犯的父母,家人,他们把罪犯生下来,是不是也要对犯罪负责任。
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啥时候搬啊?
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-28 07:23 | 只看该作者

等女皇陛下下令。
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Al_Yu 发表于 2015-10-28 06:54
是不是也应该控告罪犯的父母,家人,他们把罪犯生下来,是不是也要对犯罪负责任。 ...

其实这个才应该告。只管生不管养和教的都该告。
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alex 发表于 2015-10-28 07:24
其实这个才应该告。只管生不管养和教的都该告。

Personal responsibility?You must be a racist!
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doublepar 发表于 2015-10-28 07:37
Personal responsibility?You must be a racist!

这跟种族有毛关系?你家小孩学坏了一样赖你。
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alex 发表于 2015-10-28 08:05
这跟种族有毛关系?你家小孩学坏了一样赖你。

不放个表情,连亚历克斯的眼睛也能骗过......
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doublepar 发表于 2015-10-28 10:15
不放个表情,连亚历克斯的眼睛也能骗过......

我一下就读出这句话的语气了,最好在加点惊讶和sceaming的特效。

Personal responsibility? Being responible patents? Oh~~, no~~~, You must be a racist! We need to rely on teacher and goverment to take care my kids.


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Jena 发表于 2015-10-28 08:41
我一下就读出这句话的语气了,最好在加点惊讶和sceaming的特效。

Personal responsibility? Bei ...

哇靠,现在已经发展到连专利都要被鞭尸。。。勃朗宁老爷爷真是不能安息呀
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赶走了gunshop又怎么样?反正也是在网上买枪啊?
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alex 发表于 2015-10-28 11:05
这跟种族有毛关系?你家小孩学坏了一样赖你。

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Runfirst 发表于 2015-10-28 09:45
赶走了gunshop又怎么样?反正也是在网上买枪啊?


猪党老喜欢你了哟。
今天可以叫gun shop做记录,明天就可以叫私人ffl也做记录,后天还可以叫卖家做记录。
过阵子你买枪之前连摸一把的机会都没了你愿意?
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接着捧 Royals 不?My enemy's enemy is my friend. 对不对?
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doublepar 发表于 2015-10-28 10:32
接着捧 Royals 不?My enemy's enemy is my friend. 对不对?

俺挺喜欢royals地。。。
表跑题!
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alex 发表于 2015-10-28 09:44
关于这个蠢到极点的lawsuit。这是准备把厨子县所有的gun shop都赶走的前奏。
Lawsuit pressures Chicago su ...

Wow, they only care about African-American neighborhoods.  "This is a civil rights lawsuit to stop the export of guns from the suburbs into Chicago's African-American neighborhoods,"
人逢大事有静气
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