用超声波洗枪有啥需要注意的?

Wreak_Havok

有枪友用超声波洗枪么？如果是塑料枪，能整枪扔进去洗吗？

我手里的是 SW mp9 pro和：
- harbor freight的80刀的那款ultra sonic cleaner
- lyman sonic solution for gun parts

看了不少论坛，是不是该这样洗：
1. 拆成barrel，slide还有frame
2. 水加热，然后加solution, 1:20
3. 把barrel, slide and frame都放进去
4. 30 min
5. rinse with warm water
6. air blow dry
7. lube

这个对于fiber optic的前瞄有啥影响啊？各种弹簧不一定都能lube到，比如striker block plunger下面的小弹簧等等，没关系吧？还有APEX trigger spring中间还有一段棉布一样的填充物，在水里一泡估计就废了，这东西是有啥用呢？

多谢！

alex

好像有些材质不可以放进去。请咨询超声波洗墙专家@happyfrog   

happyfrog

alex 发表于 2015-4-17 07:30
好像有些材质不可以放进去。请咨询超声波洗墙专家@happyfrog

据说低密度金属（铝），多孔材料（珍珠，合成塑料等）会被超声波破坏，有的甚至怀疑夜瞄也会被破坏（我试过，至少我的能超声波洗）。
所以钢的，铜的部件应该没问题，但不要把合金/铝/polymer的枪身放进去

X-PGH

Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner, AR 15 bolt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFvQcc34akY



Gun "杂碎"  清理

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPu7363N6ys

大熊

注意有涂层的金属件。也许会洗出本色来。

TofuSan

use the ultrasonic lube. Which is a light oil that will be distributed by ultrasonic to small places of gun to protect metal.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t& ... amp;bvm=bv.91071109,d.aWw

https://www.brownells.com/.aspx/ ... he-King-Of-Cleaning
"...hard polymers are generally safe in ultrasonic cleaners, and many law enforcement agencies are even subjecting tritium night sights to ultrasonic waves without any damaging effects. He did, however, discourage the cleaning of any soft polymer or rubberized items, such as pistol grips, in an ultrasonic system. Apparently, these materials can permanently swell out of proportion. "

bullblade

还是别用超声波了。时间久了分子结构都受影响。

QuiMi

太麻烦了。还是老老实实用最土的办法擦吧。

Loaded1911

擦枪不应该是玩枪的乐趣之一吗？

Wreak_Havok

最近练习的量上去了，每周2次range,  擦枪开始觉着很痛苦了，再加上reload... 以前觉着是乐趣的现在成了chore...

计划每次回来非常简单擦一下，然后每2000发超声波洗一次

chaomingchen

Wreak_Havok 发表于 2015-4-17 11:39
最近练习的量上去了，每周2次range,  擦枪开始觉着很痛苦了，再加上reload... 以前觉着是乐趣的现在成了cho ...

我用超声波洗过枪管等金属件, 洗得并不干净, 枪管里面还是脏的而且G34 枪管外面还染上了一些异色. 超声波洗的时候不同零件不要接触比较好, 否则互相摩擦磨损比较大. 不如再买一把在家用的练习枪, live ammo练习枪平常不用洗, 出故障或比赛前洗一下.

睡眼朦胧

很多人终身不擦，滑动部分加油都几乎从来不做。。。俺也准备就这么招了。。。不准备成为这几千块钱买的铁器的奴隶。。。就像有人大面积的草坪。。。每周一割。。。割草机奴隶

MWD

睡眼朦胧 发表于 2015-4-17 15:23
很多人终身不擦，滑动部分加油都几乎从来不做。。。俺也准备就这么招了。。。不准备成为这几千块钱买的铁器 ...

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=289628

"I wasn’t joking.

Here is a little story for you. My FFL sold a customer a rifle but this was not just any rifle you see it was the personal target rifle. When the guy bought the rifle the FFL said this rifle is extremely accurate and do not clean it, it shoots better groups dirty. The man took the rifle home the first thing he did is scrub years of filth out of the bore. A few days later he brought it back to the FFL and said this thing will not hit the broad side of a barn. The FLL looked at the rifle and said you cleaned it I told you not to clean it. The man said that is nuts you have to clean a rifle every time you shoot it. The FFL told the man to take it and shoot it but do not clean the bore and as it get dirty it will start shooting better. A few days later the man came back and told the FFL that he did not lie and that it shoots now.

At the range it always gets me when I see shooters cramming a cleaning rod down their barrels every 2 to 4 shots without the benefit of a guide. When I ask them if they had every tried shooting dirty they look at me like I have a big worm coming out of the top of my head.

Everyone needs to shoot their SHTF rifle until it gets so dirty that it quits working that way they know how it shoots dirty and how many rounds they can soot before they have to clean it."

davidd

基本靠手

Wreak_Havok

MWD 发表于 2015-4-17 16:16
http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=289628

"I wasn’t joking.

这个有点misleading啊，靶枪确实不应该太常清洁，但是几千发不清洁是瞎扯
还有，靶场每打几发就清洁管子的一般都是在break in, 不是所有的管子都是5R的膛线，所以不少新枪是需要break in的

手枪越脏越准的理论没听说过

alex

睡眼朦胧 发表于 2015-4-17 15:23
很多人终身不擦，滑动部分加油都几乎从来不做。。。俺也准备就这么招了。。。不准备成为这几千块钱买的铁器 ...

每周一割都不一定够。。。

OutofTune

睡眼朦胧 发表于 2015-4-17 15:23
很多人终身不擦，滑动部分加油都几乎从来不做。。。俺也准备就这么招了。。。不准备成为这几千块钱买的铁器 ...

aglee....枪就是个工具，用不着这么仔细。。没那么娇的。。成为努力本末倒置。。咋整。。

NorSunShine33

要掌握好清洗时间，洗枪械部件的话尽量不要放在不锈钢的篮子里，否则会把零件和不锈钢的接触点上的涂层和发蓝磨掉，这是我痛苦的往事