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[安防设备] 家今天差点被盗

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发表于 2015-1-18 20:08 | 只看该作者
上油管看了一下,不难。买几个简单的工具就能自己装, 就是花点时间。

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvblNFdec9M
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coltjedi 发表于 2015-1-18 23:08
上油管看了一下,不难。买几个简单的工具就能自己装, 就是花点时间。

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O ...

看着不错
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本帖最后由 lczlcz 于 2015-1-18 20:39 编辑
TFollowerII 发表于 2015-1-18 19:33
那一分钟将是喧嚣的,因为罪犯需要不停地打击玻璃。争取到的这个时间应该还是有价值的。

那是对付很casual的贼的,稍微有点经验的就不行.

网上看一下就知道消防队是怎么对付这种玻璃的: 用那种halligan敲个洞,然后拿个锯子一割就开了,速度非常快. 因为起火的时候消防队需要很快进入室内. 这个方法是google里面前三条里面就显示了,所以稍微又点经验的贼肯定知道. 花那么多钱贴膜,然后一分钟之内就被搞掉,那个好像不合算.
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本帖最后由 lczlcz 于 2015-1-18 20:37 编辑
coltjedi 发表于 2015-1-18 19:52
3M security film并不贵, 自己贴很麻烦吗?如果自己能贴,那不是很省钱?

这个防敲碎的原理是这样的: 它不能防止玻璃破碎,只是防止玻璃破碎后散开来. 所以贴膜后关键点就不是玻璃,而是玻璃和frame的结合处. 如果那个结合处不牢的话, 一敲就可以把整块玻璃敲开. 所以dealer装这个东东的时候都用胶水把贴膜的边直接贴到frame上面好保证和frame的结合处可以牢固一点. 这个自己贴就比较麻烦. 另外如果frame不牢固的话贴膜也没用.
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本帖最后由 lczlcz 于 2015-1-18 20:54 编辑
coltjedi 发表于 2015-1-18 20:08
上油管看了一下,不难。买几个简单的工具就能自己装, 就是花点时间。

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O ...

看了,那个没有讲到关键点,就是贴膜后玻璃不是weakness,而是边框frame是weakness. 你youtube看下其他的试验就知道了.玻璃不会破,但可能被人用力打窗框边沿把那个打开.
所以dealer安装的时候都把膜直接贴到frame上面然后用强力胶固定.

google "does window security film work"
第一条就说这个没用:
http://www.vententersearch.com/?p=199

Firemen discussing breaching hurricane windows (factory made with security film).

The whole site is good to learn how people with training and tools go about busting into secured areas quickly.

And for learning just how easily gotten around most building security is with only a few items, like a halligan and a k12 style saw http://www.firehouse.com/forums/ ... 2-Style-Saw-for-RIT

and blades.

    He has found that a pruning saw makes quick work on them, and caries a small folding saw in his pocket for that purpose.

    He has noticed a significant increase in the popularity of hurricane windows in his coastal area of Florida. For obvious reasons hurricane windows don't break like traditional windows. They are laminated, and designed to remain in place even after taking a significant impact. He has found that using a halligan to create a purchase point and using the saw to be quite effective. Once the purchase is made, the saw can be used to "clear" the window. This method works well if a window needs to be opened in a hurry, without having the proper equipment readily available.

    A saw would be the tool of choice if multiple windows need to be opened. Obviously the preferred method would still be to take the entire frame out, and the glass shouldn't be too much of an issue. Another interesting observation about hurricane windows is that they tend to be mounted flush regardless of the type of building construction being used. The old trick of flush mount = wood frame, and recessed (with sill) = block or masonry may not be as much of a tell tale sign as it used to be.

第二条解释了这个贴膜的原理:
cwh SuperDork
Nov. 29, 2010 10:27 a.m.

OK, Security Expert here. Some of the window film is effective, but relies on the window frame to provide strength. The film does not keep the glass from breaking, it keeps it from coming apart. If the broken glass can be pushed out of the frame, no good (主意: 这句很关键). 3M makes a good one. An alternative to this would be polycarbonate clear sheet plastic, 1/4" thick. This will, if properly mounted, stop a concrete block from coming through your window. I had recorded video of a burglar throwing a brick at one of these at a porno shop. Bounced back and hit him in the head. Fun times. Understand that over a period of time, the plastic will become cloudy. As far as the alarm system is concerned, there are companies that will offer alarm monitoring without a long contract, for as little as 20.00 per month.. Also, I am a great believer in making as much noise as possible. Inside, outside, at least 30 watt sirens. The sirens included with most of the cheapy systems from Brinks and ADT are next to useless. I used to install two 30 watt horns above the entry door to stores. Never had a successful burglary. There are also voice dialers that can call your cell phone and read off a message. Police will not accept those calls, though. PM me if you want more info. Chuck

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所以, 我的结论是装这个东东不太合算. 比较贵, 但基本没用. 性价比太低.

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lczlcz 发表于 2015-1-18 20:49
看了,那个没有讲到关键点,就是贴膜后玻璃不是weakness,而是边框frame是weakness. 你youtube看下其他的试 ...

谢科普!那装啥才能防止这种破窗而入哪?
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这么个洞是准备伸手进来把插销拨开吧?

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longlive 发表于 2015-1-19 09:02
这么个洞是准备伸手进来把插销拨开吧?

应该是从这个洞伸手进来, 握着玻璃, 然后拉可以钻进人的大洞.

这样玻璃不会碎了出大声.
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看第一张还以为IR salt plate碎了呢。。
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