可怜的两岁小孩竟然能开枪，啥枪？可怜的妈妈！

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/31/us ... x.html?c=homepage-t

• updated 11:34 PM EST 12.31.14Relative of mom shot by son at Walmart speaksBy Teri Genova and Dana Ford, CNN
  
  
  
  
  
  
  (CNN) - The father-in-law of a mother fatally shot in an Idaho Walmart by her 2-year-old son says she didn't have a mean bone in her body.
  "Everybody that met her, knew her, loved her," Terry Rutledge said about Veronica Rutledge, 29.
  She died Tuesday after her young son grabbed a gun that was in her purse and shot her in an apparent accident, authorities have said. The two were out shopping with other family members when the shooting occurred.
  

Rutledge put herself through school and was a chemical engineer, Terry Rutledge said.

• "She was a fun-loving, outgoing, outdoorsy person. Her family liked to camp, hike, do outdoorsy things. They loved being together," he said.
  He added that she had carried a gun for years and had extensive training.
  "I cannot put any blame on my daughter-in-law because I know her, the training she's had ... I don't take it lightly ... I cannot put any negligence on her part. It was a terrible accident," said Terry Rutledge.
  He told CNN affiliate KREM 2that the gun used in the shooting had been kept in a concealed zipper pouch in her purse.
  One gun expert described what happened as a "perfect storm."
  The toddler was able to unzip the pocket and grab the gun -- without being noticed. He was also able to grip the gun and exert sufficient force to fire, at least three pounds, Robin Ball, owner of Sharp Shooting Indoor Range & Gun Shop in Spokane, Washington, told KREM 2.
  [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4)]CNN's Michael Martinez and Tony Marco contributed to this report.
  
  
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PekingDeagle

3 lbs, not 3 rnds

garfieldking

PekingDeagle 发表于 2015-1-1 00:17
3 lbs, not 3 rnds

哈哈

wansir

虽然理论上说能打第一枪就能打第N枪，不过两岁小孩打了一枪以后还能抓得住枪继续下去，这得是什么样的天才或魔鬼哦？

Ogre

3 lb trigger is far too light for a carry gun

alex

你要脑残到什么时候？

oldben

是 “at least three pounds”。

看史外甥官网上麻婆盾扳机重是6.5 磅左右，这小孩手劲儿够大的。

Ogre

麻婆盾要是外保险上了，这个事故也就能避免了。

doublepar

较新的麻婆盾不一定有外保险，这个本身就是个极小概率事件，说不定那妈妈多买少买一样东西，事情就没了。另外，老游引用的希嗯嗯报道还算客观，可能社会整体大风向有些变了。

qwertyy

oldben 发表于 2015-1-1 06:18
是 “at least three pounds”。

看史外甥官网上麻婆盾扳机重是6.5 磅左右，这小孩手劲儿够大的。

不要小瞧小孩的力量，他们可以双手扣扳机，而且可以把枪抵在身上，整个胳膊用力，要是用拇指力量就更大了。

ns66

Ogre 发表于 2015-1-1 06:25
麻婆盾要是外保险上了，这个事故也就能避免了。

是，外保险是不可少的
板机上的所谓“保险“根本不能代替真的保险，就是被东西挂住也会击发

kisskaren

手枪挂在腰上需要枪套，放在提包和口袋里也需要专用枪套。有retention的枪套，可以减少概率。
当然self defense枪扳机别小于5.5磅

ns66

kisskaren 发表于 2015-1-1 09:49
手枪挂在腰上需要枪套，放在提包和口袋里也需要专用枪套。有retention的枪套，可以减少概率。
当然self def ...

个人觉得放提包的情况下用枪套还不如不上膛，包里用枪套太慢了，而且这个小孩可以unzip包，就可以从枪套拔枪
而且觉得各种扳机“trick”（机关或重量）都不能代替真正的保险

tk819550

这孩子坑娘了。 这叫他以后怎么面对他爹

kisskaren

ns66 发表于 2015-1-1 09:54
个人觉得放提包的情况下用枪套还不如不上膛，包里用枪套太慢了
而且觉得各种扳机“trick”（机关或重量） ...

上不上膛是个人习惯和选择，你我说的不算。
我对裤兜枪套和包包枪套完全不懂，比如RCS vanguard扳机护套带个绳的那种，是不是可以考虑一下。其实ccw还是枪不离身比较安全。

kisskaren

另外，我跟不少老手打过枪，timer一响拔枪出来没开保险干扣。和保险不知啥时候被蹭开（HK MP Berreta)，司空见惯。也许当时收枪的时候就忘锁保险了。保险，不能解决一切走火问题，正确的意识和训练可以。

kisskaren

女孩子包包carry, DAO 左轮或者DAO半自动可能会好一些。有的女孩子在男友面前表现的柔弱可人，其实扣个DAO扳机对她们来说小菜一碟。

Hohenstaufenz

说句实在话，胸罩枪套对女士来说可能还真是一个不错的选择，枪不应该不随身带的。放包里实在是太不安全了，尤其是遇到我这种专门抢包的。。。

ca1903

看了樓主的CNN鏈接。重點與樓主引述的文字相同。

槍是放在一個 a concealed zipper pouch in her purse.  Pouch是有拉鍊的。然後放在提包裡。這樣還能被孩子拿到，太不幸了

另外的確是3磅扳機，不是3發：不過這是訪問一個gun range所提到，至少3磅的扳機。實際多少就不知道了！

56半

第一声枪响以后，小孩应该是吓坏了，要么哇的一声扔掉枪，要么吓得紧紧的握住枪导致连续发射