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发表于 2015-1-7 11:41 | 只看该作者
cjw065 发表于 2015-1-7 11:27
准备买个AR玩玩?

那是一定的。不过我还没给警察局打电话确认。看了一圈号码不知道打哪个。
最开始买手枪的时候打的总机的大哥做“这有啥好问的,随便买”状。。。
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cjw065 发表于 2015-1-7 11:27
准备买个AR玩玩?


大爷们真是会躲避关键问题啊。。。。
我就问我到底是遵守厨子县的规矩还是Evanston的规矩,人居然这么说。。。。
司法专家 @QuiMi  来解读一下?

The City of Evanston cannot provide legal advice; individuals must consult their own private attorney for legal advice. Individuals must comply with all laws applicable to them. With the question presented, I cannot speak on behalf of Cook County.

With respect to the City of Evanston, pursuant to City Code 9-8-14:
(A) No person, in the City of Evanston, shall sell, offer or display for sale, give, lend, transfer ownership of, own, possess or carry any assault weapon. This subsection shall not apply to: (1) The sale or transfer to, or possession by any peace officer, corrections officer, members of the armed forces of the United States; or the organized militia of this or any other state; to the extent that any such person is otherwise authorized to acquire or possess an assault weapon, and is acting within the scope of his/her duties; (2) A gun collector, within the confines of his/her permanent residence, who pursuant to Title I of the Gun Control Act of 1968 and all regulations issued thereunder, is the holder of a nontransferable license by the U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. (3) Transportation of assault weapons if such weapons are broken down and in a nonfunctioning state and are not immediately accessible to any person. (B) Any person violating this Section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be fined not less than one thousand five hundred dollars ($1,500.00) and/or incarcerated for up to six (6) months for each offense.

An assault weapon pursuant to Evanston City Code Section 9-8-1 is defined as:
(A) A semiautomatic rifle shall mean and include a rifle with a detachable or fixed magazine with a capacity of fifteen (15) or more rounds. (B) A semiautomatic handgun shall mean and include a handgun with a detachable magazine and has one (1) or more of the following: (1) Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (2) A folding, telescoping or thumbhole stock; (3) A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; or (4) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip. (C) A semiautomatic shotgun with a detachable magazine with a capacity of six (6) or more rounds. (D) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder. (E) Firearms which have been modified to be operable as an assault weapon as defined herein. (F) Short barreled rifles with a barrel length of less than 16 inches. ["Assault weapon" does not include any firearm that has been made permanently inoperable, is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action, any muzzle-loading rifle, muzzle-loading shotgun, or muzzle-loading pistol which is designed to use black powder or a black powder substitute and which cannot use fixed ammunition, or satisfies the definition of "antique firearm," as defined in this Section.]
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alex 发表于 2015-1-15 15:35
大爷们真是会躲避关键问题啊。。。。
我就问我到底是遵守厨子县的规矩还是Evanston的规矩,人居然这么说 ...

好像没at到。@QuiMi
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alex 发表于 2015-1-15 17:35
大爷们真是会躲避关键问题啊。。。。
我就问我到底是遵守厨子县的规矩还是Evanston的规矩,人居然这么说 ...

不是持照律师。所以"司法专家"的头衔不能当真。

依我的解读,不管是厨子郡还是挨温厮屯,所谓"攻击武器"都是非法。这点没什么区别。

但是,你们挨温厮屯的土政策提供了一个重要的漏洞:收藏家豁免。

因此,你只要有C&R执照,买一把C&R的AK47好象就成:  (2) A gun collector, within the confines of his/her permanent residence, who pursuant to Title I of the Gun Control Act of 1968 and all regulations issued thereunder, is the holder of a nontransferable license by the U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

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QuiMi 发表于 2015-1-15 15:58
不是持照律师。所以"司法专家"的头衔不能当真。

依我的解读,不管是厨子郡还是挨温厮屯,所谓"攻击武 ...

我纠结的不是这里啦。
厨子县把AR直接列在AW的list里了,但是Evanston的定义里面按我的理解只定义满足AW条件的rifle capable for >= 15 round mag。
那要是按Evanston的code理解我只要装15发一下的mag AR是可以买的?
EV是home rule community,那按我的理解厨子县在这得听Evanston的规矩?
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本帖最后由 dart 于 2015-1-15 19:18 编辑

Let us know what you find out.
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本帖最后由 QuiMi 于 2015-1-15 18:52 编辑
alex 发表于 2015-1-15 18:05
我纠结的不是这里啦。
厨子县把AR直接列在AW的list里了,但是Evanston的定义里面按我的理解只定义满足AW ...

AR 的标准是20发弹匣吧?你可以搞个10发弹匣。但是警察叔叔要找你麻烦照样可以。

为什么一定要AR呢?瞧我的无托五六半,只有31寸长。绝对合法。

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发表于 2015-1-15 18:12 | 只看该作者
QuiMi 发表于 2015-1-15 16:28
AR 的标准是20发弹匣吧?你可以搞个10发弹匣。但是警察叔叔要找你麻烦照样可以。

为什么一定要AR呢? ...


模块化的搭起来好玩啊。俺第一只也可能唯一一支ar打算整超轻便型的这样ld才没意见啊。你总不能让ld抱这么一坨大家伙吧。。。。。
警察叔叔找我啥麻烦?你看楼主问的,后面的意见只要不装枪上就可以?
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alex 发表于 2015-1-15 20:12
模块化的搭起来好玩啊。俺第一只也可能唯一一支ar打算整超轻便型的这样ld才没意见啊。你总不能让ld抱 ...

我倒是希望象你这样去以身试法的人越多越好,直至有人被警察叔叔抓了闹上法庭,这厨子郡的恶法才有可能被盼违宪。

见cjw065的贴:

If NOTHING ELSE.. I would not be at all surprised to see the potential for cases where the seized weapon is not returned to a resident of a Home Rule Unit who possessed the weapon inside that Home Rule Unit, even if criminal charges are not pursued resulting in the loss of a costly piece of property, which is in and of itself a severe expense.
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QuiMi 发表于 2015-1-15 18:55
我倒是希望象你这样去以身试法的人越多越好,直至有人被警察叔叔抓了闹上法庭,这厨子郡的恶法才有可能被 ...

我还等别人试呢。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-1-15 19:25 | 只看该作者
讨论了半天也没个结论。
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