What is the most reliable handgun?

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alex 发表于 2016-10-30 11:27
想有啥用。大部分人都没资格回答这个问题。。

可以引用数据么，写paper不都是这么干的？

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jasonh03 发表于 2016-10-30 11:23
跟海豹走p226
。当然不是快被OB搞破产的

你应该知道海豹已经换成glock 19了吧？

alex

gggghbr 发表于 2016-10-30 11:35
可以引用数据么，写paper不都是这么干的？

所以俺很讨厌academia啊。都是扯淡

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dcx 发表于 2016-10-30 11:26
http://pistol-training.com/archives/2668

在10000发左右换过弹簧后平均27000发生一次故障。打了90000发 ...

有2万7这么高么？我看到是7608：
Even my endurance test Glock gen4 17 with its problem childhood and broken springs has turned in almost 71,000 rounds of service to date with a total of 18 stoppages (a MRBS of almost 4,000). The HK45 endurance test gun had a MRBS of 16,667. The P30 went 7,608 MRBS before it started to choke due to the cracked frame at a little past 91,000 rounds. The M&P9 scored an incredible 20,778 MRBS with two recorded stoppages and one spring breakage that prevented the gun from functioning normally.

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alex 发表于 2016-10-30 11:45
所以俺很讨厌academia啊。都是扯淡

不怕被你Lp看到？

brucewayne

opinion not fact...

alex

gggghbr 发表于 2016-10-30 11:47
不怕被你Lp看到？

不怕。俺家女皇陛下很久不写纸了。

wxh1227

g粉

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brucewayne 发表于 2016-10-30 11:50
opinion not fact...

That's why I only listed well adopted guns here. Lots of tests have been done on each of them.

新垣結衣

打了這麼多年槍 就算glock沒出過什麼問題 雖然有一隻1911也從來沒有出過問題 而且round count比glock多很多 但是還是不列出來了 我不認為會有人帶那種槍出去

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新垣結衣 发表于 2016-10-30 12:07
打了這麼多年槍 就算glock沒出過什麼問題 雖然有一隻1911也從來沒有出過問題 而且round count比glock多很多 ...

No FTF/FTE at all?

dcx

gggghbr 发表于 2016-10-30 11:46
有2万7这么高么？我看到是7608：
Even my endurance test Glock gen4 17 with its problem childhood and ...

总共13次故障。
在10000发左右因为一个弹簧问题发生了7次故障。换了弹簧后平均27000发一次故障。完蛋之前3次故障。

[size=23.2014px]During the entire test, the pistol experienced a total of thirteen stoppages[size=23.2014px]. Those who have followed the test from the beginning will remember that the first seven were the result of an out-of-spec mainspring that was replaced before the 10,000 round mark. The last three, as reported above, were in quick succession due to the gun reaching the end of its service life. Between the time when the mainspring was replaced and the gun’s final death throes, there were only three stoppages[size=23.2014px]… that’s less than one stoppage per 27,000 rounds fired

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gggghbr 发表于 2016-10-31 08:14
No FTF/FTE at all?

沒有

DirectGG

Glock 19!

我的P226打了1000发，扳机就不reset了。

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dcx 发表于 2016-10-30 12:20
总共13次故障。
在10000发左右因为一个弹簧问题发生了7次故障。换了弹簧后平均27000发一次故障。完蛋之前3 ...

Cool! 7千多估计是平均值。

dcx

gggghbr 发表于 2016-10-30 12:37
Cool! 7千多估计是平均值。

就是。他说out of spec弹簧不知道是指弹簧不是原配还是其他什么意思。没功夫看以前的记录。

dcx

gggghbr 发表于 2016-10-30 12:37
Cool! 7千多估计是平均值。

看了一下在week8里。hk装错了弹簧。造成 Fte.[size=13.9674px]HK reports that the gun apparently left the factory with an out-of-spec hammer spring[size=13.9674px] (a.k.a. mainspring). Even after nearly 10,000 rounds, it was still putting too much tension on the hammer. Thus, when the gun recoiled, it had to fight more resistance than intended and once in a while (7 times, at least) it wouldn’t cycle completely. This resulted in the extraction failures.

dcx

版上g家的粉丝还是多。

Huntington

HK P series

Bentley

怎么没有春田？
香港没必要占俩坑吧？