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[猎闻杂谈] 大家对这个杀狮子的牙医怎么看?

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-30 08:43 | 只看该作者
这有篇文章

http://www.realclearpolitics.com ... _outrage_meter.html

Cecil the Lion and America's Broken Outrage Meter

By Heather Wilhelm - July 30, 2015
One of the joys of the digital age, at least to many, is the thrill of discovering a new World’s Most Despicable Person. You know the drill: First, some poor sap says or does something dumb or politically incorrect. Next, mobs of wild-eyed, unhinged keyboard cops swoop in to judge, shame, excoriate, and issue over-the-top condemnations. Finally, if they’re lucky, the Mean Typing League might even manage to destroy a life or a reputation or a business or two, not to mention everyone’s general faith in humanity.

After performing this ritual cleansing, one assumes, those involved feel slightly better about themselves. This sense of inner peace and superiority has not yet been scientifically measured, but it lasts, alas, for only a few fleeting days. That’s when it’s time to find a new World’s Most Despicable Person.

This week, that person is Dr. Walter James Palmer, a dentist from Minnesota with the unfortunate habit of paying copious amounts of money to kill large, exotic animals around the globe. Earlier in July, as the world discovered this week, Palmer messed with the wrong large, exotic animal: Cecil the Lion, one of Africa’s most beloved and famous lions, a favorite of wildlife researchers, and the “star attraction” of Zimbabwe’s Hwagne National Park.

I, like most of humanity, had never heard of Cecil the Lion until this week—thanks to the Internet, he now has approximately five million devoted new best friends, who had also, oddly, never heard of him until now—but there are several videos of him circulating online. He seems like a nice enough lion, I guess, if you like sexist oppressor male kings of the jungle.

I kid, I kid!  Sort of.  Alas, the truth about Cecil’s links to the patriarchy is all on YouTube for the world to see: the roaring and biting at those born without male privilege; the casual, utter disregard for female lion self-esteem; the skulking around like a half-hungry Marlon Brando trapped in a Mafia pizza parlor. This is because he was a wild animal, of course, and not a cartoon character. Regardless, let’s move on.

Cecil lived on nationally protected land in Zimbabwe, but Dr. Palmer’s apparently shady and unscrupulous guides—for whom he paid a whopping $54,000—lured the unsuspecting lion off his nature preserve. There, Palmer shot him with a crossbow. That didn’t do the trick, so a fatal rifle shot came next, but only after tracking the wounded, suffering lion for nearly 40 hours. This was followed by the beheading and skinning of poor Cecil, who certainly didn’t deserve such a cruel fate, but who also, just as a friendly, safety-related reminder, would probably happily eat you in a casual and relaxed fashion if he had the chance.

This week, Cecil’s story exploded, inciting batten-down-the-hatches outrage. Animal rights group PETA, for instance, declared that Dr. Palmer should be “extradited, charged, and preferably hanged” for killing such a beloved creature. In a heated op-ed, former CNN host Piers Morgan proposed a new sport, “Big Human Hunting,” in which he would kill Dr. Palmer with a crossbow, torture him, and skin him alive, which sounds normal if you just had a brain transplant from, say, Jeffrey Dahmer.

Actress Debra Messing argued for revoking Dr. Palmer’s citizenship; Sharon Osborne, who is married to a man who once bit the head off a bat, called for the eradication of Palmer’s home, business, and money. On Tuesday night, an emotional Jimmy Kimmel questioned Dr. Palmer’s erectile abilities before a chortling television audience, called him “vomitous” and “the most hated man in America who never advertised Jell-O pudding on television,” and then helpfully noted that we probably shouldn’t “start a witch hunt for the guy.” Oh. Okay. We’ll just ignore those first parts, broadcast to millions!

Dr. Palmer, meanwhile, is in hiding. His business is closed, piled with threats and hate mail. Cecil’s killing, the embattled dentist declared in a statement, was a terrible mistake: “I relied on the expertise of my local professional guides to ensure a legal hunt." This may or may not be true; Dr. Palmer may or may not be an unsavory and unethical character. It’s a sad situation; we’ll have to wait and see. One thing, however, seems indisputable: The world is, as is its eternal wont—and here I shall quote an eminent showbiz bat-biter—going off the rails on a crazy train.

Paying $54,000 to kill a wild, beautiful animal seems like a strange and questionable hobby at best; at worst, it seems downright cruel. On the other hand, some conservationists applaud the practice, at least when it’s done legally. What’s telling, however, is that the great Cecil conflagration of 2015 occurred on the same day undercover operatives released the third in a series of graphic, disturbing Planned Parenthood videos. This video, unlike the former two, featured body parts. Tiny body parts. Detailed, well formed, and unmistakably human.

But never mind. Let’s talk about Cecil, a lion that has emerged as a benevolent, finely sketched cartoon creature in the global moral imagination, setting our hyperactive but wildly misfiring outrage meter into a wild, chaotic spin. He’s a lot more fun to think about than unborn baby humans, apparently. The villains in his case are certainly more dramatically drawn. And really: Who doesn’t like cartoons better than reality?t

Heather Wilhelm is a writer based in Austin,Texas. Her work can be found at  http://www.heatherwilhelm.com/ and her Twitter handle is @heatherwilhelm.
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Hohenstaufenz 发表于 2015-7-30 00:20
此人也许有罪,也许是被欺骗, 也许是故意让自己被人欺骗,who knows? 这在法律眼中都不如事实证据更为有力 ...


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Now outfitters advertise like this now:

*** Guaranteed ' collar free and unnamed ' ***
Work hard, play harder
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longlive 发表于 2015-7-30 11:43
这有篇文章

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/07/30/cecil_the_lion_and_americas_broken_ ...

有这么个人在前面顶着,什么政治不正确的话突然就都正确了。我怀疑要是个黑人牙医杀了这狮子,可能就没人敢这么说了。有没有罪完全看司法系统,诅咒人一家老小,上yelp抹黑算什么事……上回那种族歧视的靶场都不让在yelp上写review。现在这社会justice都是屁话,以前petition白宫说不能干预司法,这次签名也够了,我看他们怎么回复。
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rc256 发表于 2015-7-31 07:59
Now outfitters advertise like this now:

*** Guaranteed ' collar free and unnamed ' ***

这里的关键是那俩当地向导没有拿到杀狮quota。 Baiting 和杀戴项圈的都是合法的。 我倒是倾向那个牙医并不知情。 打狮子的outfitters那末多,付了五万多刀的Full price, 没有理由去找个非法的。 就是太倒霉遇到不靠谱的当地人, 杀了个国家象征

U.K.-based charity LionAid, which advocates for the animal's protection. The group says it is legal to bait lions in Zimbabwe, and even to kill them using a bow and arrow outside of national parks during private hunting trips. Whether or not they're wearing a radiocollar — Cecil was — also doesn't matter, the group says.
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发表于 2015-7-31 07:27 来自手机 | 只看该作者
Agreed. Bad luck for him. Guilty by association.
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基本躲一阵子就没事了。
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我只知道原来反猎的人这么多这么激烈。看微博微信上的评论都一边倒啊,导致我都没勇气用我们在打猎群里达成的共识去跟那帮人讲理去
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michael4338 发表于 2015-7-31 10:57
我只知道原来反猎的人这么多这么激烈。看微博微信上的评论都一边倒啊,导致我都没勇气用我们在打猎群里达成 ...

这个真的没有什么“理” 可以讲,这个“理” 很多时候是不确定的, 大多数人同意了就变成理了, 黑人群众为被击毙的罪犯上街游行他们认为很有理,这些人在网上攻击甚至威胁杀死这个牙医按常“理” 来说是不对的甚至是违法的,可是同意的人多了就变成 有理的了。美国这种double standard 的虚伪的人很多,如果这次不是牙医是O8干的, 你说这些媒体人会叫嚣什么扒皮砍头吗,他不敢,而且首先会从津巴布韦政府身上找毛病找借口。我们从中吸取教训将来可以保护自己就行了。

内心柔软而有原则,身披铠甲而有温度。
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cjw065 发表于 2015-7-31 14:47
这个真的没有什么“理” 可以讲,这个“理” 很多时候是不确定的, 大多数人同意了就变成理了, 黑人群众 ...

马了个笔的, 杀死一只鸡把狮子, 那么多人义愤填膺鸡鸡歪歪。 每天那么多人被杀, 也没看谁跳出来报不平, 这是什么世道。  
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什么可以杀什么不可以杀,不同的人在不同的文化背景下有不同的评价标准,总结一下无非是在下图某一个地方划一条线,不同人划得地方不同而已,所以俺认为本质是一样的。
既然法律是多数人的意志,那只要不违法就该干啥干啥行了,不用管其他人BB

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今天那个狮子的弟弟也被杀了。
职业灌水,五毛聊个天。
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本帖最后由 XeonR 于 2016-7-31 22:39 编辑

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HOUSCOUS 发表于 2015-8-1 20:59
今天那个狮子的弟弟也被杀了。

叫啥名字?
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Jericho. 津巴布韦应该下力严惩这些poaching motherhugger 了,再不管的话几年下去就没狮子了. It has happened before, and it will happen again. By then it will be too damn late.

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HOUSCOUS 发表于 2015-8-1 23:59
今天那个狮子的弟弟也被杀了。

辟谣了,假的
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michael4338 发表于 2015-7-31 10:57
我只知道原来反猎的人这么多这么激烈。看微博微信上的评论都一边倒啊,导致我都没勇气用我们在打猎群里达成 ...

直接發這個給他們看,問他們吃肉麼?吃魚麼?吃蛋麼?喝奶麼?如果有,就滾一邊去



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为了生存和生产,以及牲畜和动物控制而打猎,我不反对且支持。坚决反对以娱乐为目的的猎取珍惜濒危动物的行为
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还是一个原则, 朋友圈小心, 不要post。 朋友圈左逼全部block。 还有不要把朋友的这些东西截屏转发。
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longlive 发表于 2015-7-29 08:52
这其实是很恐怖的事情,如果互联网上的人认为你有罪,你就doomed 了。以前文革贴大字报和这个的效率差太远 ...

文革比这狠很多。
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