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neotsu 发表于 2014-12-5 17:52
到底怎么说他的生存率提高了一点点吧。。

咱们不是为了荔波罗活着的

在我们这个小破地方已经看到不止一次的bumper sticker  says: Guns have two enemies, rust and liberal. lol
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neotsu 发表于 2014-12-5 17:52
到底怎么说他的生存率提高了一点点吧。。

咱们不是为了荔波罗活着的

真很难讲。哎
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Demosthenes 发表于 2014-12-5 15:31
你是这样干的吗?哈哈

毫无例外,每次都是非常认真的。
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loomis 发表于 2014-12-5 16:50
sporting clay非常是适合作为社交项目啊,哈哈

哦,是吧,我还没带人去试过。更别提带新手了。
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不懂事的绝对不带就是了
有人住高楼,有人在深沟,有人光万丈,有人一身锈,世人万千种,浮云莫去求,斯人若彩虹,遇上方知有。
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otud 发表于 2014-12-5 16:22
跟大家分享一下你的waiver form吧,谢谢!

这里是我当年给学员提供的waiver form, 格式被打乱了,但是内容如下:
RELEASE, WAIVER, INDEMNIFICATION, HOLD HARMLESS, AND ASSUMPTION OF RISK AGREEMENT WARNING : FIREARM SHOOTING ACTIVITIES COULD CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY OR EVEN DEATH Whereas, in consideration of being permitted to attend a course for instruction in firearms, for the instruction in firearms, for use of premises, and for other good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency of which is hereby acknowledged, Undersigned agrees to the following : “HOHENSTAUFENZ” (在此省略我的legal name) and University of XXXXXXX are not attorneys; and nothing discussed during training is meant to be construed as legal advice in any manner or jurisdiction. Undersigned hereby recognizes his/her obligation to understand all applicable laws and is hereby advised to consult a licensed attorney for any legal advice. Undersigned is fully aware that firearm shooting and all associated activities are inherently dangerous and can lead to injury or death and no amount of care, caution, instruction, or expertise can eliminate these risks. Undersigned understands the scope, nature, and extent of the risks involved in the activities contemplated by this agreement and freely chooses to assume any and all such risks and dangers. The activities include, but are not limited to classroom instruction, travel to and from one or more shooting ranges, range-site instruction, firearm loading and discharging, firearm maintenance, and similar activities related to the training in and use of firearms (hereinafter collectively referred to as the ‘Activities”).
Undersigned agrees to indemnify and defend, including the payment of attorneys’ fees, costs and expenses, “HOHENSTAUFENZ” and University of XXXXXXX. (hereinafter collectively referred to as 'Instructor & Sponsoring Organization'), from any and all fault, liabilities, injuries, costs, expenses, claims, demands or lawsuits arising out of related to or connected with the Activities and/or the Undersigned’s presence at any facility used by Instructor & Sponsoring Organization (hereinafter collectively referred to as the ‘Premises’) that are caused or otherwise related to the non-negligent conduct of Instructor & Sponsoring Organization.
Undersigned agrees to compensate the Instructor in full current market value for any repairs and replacements of equipments, such as firearms, accessories, range gears (hereinafter collectively referred to as the ‘Equipments’) that have suffered breakage and tears under the negligence or deliberate intention of the Undersigned (including but not limited to the accidental and/or intentional dropping/bumping the Equipments on hard surfaces, manipulating the Equipments without the Instructor’s approval, failing to follow the guidance of the Instructor et cetera).
Undersigned furthermore waives and releases for himself/herself and for his/her spouse, executors, personal representatives, administrators, insurers, successors, assigns, heirs and next of kin, any and all rights, injuries, losses, demands and claims which may arise against Instructor & Sponsoring Organization ( including but not limited to the death of
the Undersigned and/or any and all injuries, damages or illnesses suffered by Undersigned or Undersigned's property ), which may, in any way whatsoever, arise out of, be related to or be connected with the Activities; the Premises, including any latent or other defect in the Premises; Undersigned's presence on or use of the Premises; Undersigned's property ( whether or not entrusted to Instructor & Sponsoring Organization ); and anything else related to any of the foregoing. Instructor & Sponsoring Organization shall not be liable for, and Undersigned, on behalf of himself/herself and on behalf of his/her spouse, executors, personal representatives, administrators, assignees, heirs and next of kin, hereby expressly releases the Instructor & Sponsoring Organization from any and all such claims, damages, injuries and liabilities.
Undersigned further acknowledges by signing this instrument that he/she is not prohibited by any Federal, State, or local law or ordinance from using firearms.
Undersigned hereby acknowledges and agrees that Undersigned has read this instrument and understands its terms and is executing this instrument voluntarily. Undersigned further certifies that he/she is eighteen (18) years of age or older and state that he/she is not under the influence of alcohol, drugs, and/or any other mind-altering substance. Undersigned furthermore hereby acknowledges and agrees that he/she has read, understands and will at all times abide by all range rules and procedures and any other rules and procedures stated by the Instructor & Sponsoring Organization.
Undersigned expressly agrees that this instrument is intended to be as broad and as inclusive as permitted by law, and that if any provision of this instrument is held invalid or otherwise unenforceable, the enforceability of the remaining provisions shall not be impaired thereby. No remedy conferred by any of the specific provisions of this instrument is intended to be exclusive of any other remedy, and each and every remedy shall be cumulative and shall be in addition to every other remedy now or hereafter existing at law or in equity or by statue or otherwise. The elections of any one or more remedy hereunder by the Instructor & Sponsoring Organization shall not constitute any waiver of Instructor's & Training Organization's right to pursue other available remedies. This instrument binds Undersigned and his/her spouse, executors, personal representatives, administrators, successors, assigns, heirs and next of kin.
UNDERSIGNED Signeature: ________________ Print Name:   ________________  DATE :  ________________ WITNESS 1: ________________ Signature  ________________ Print Name  ________________ WITNESS 2: Signature  ________________ Print Name ________________________
Mailing Address of UNDERSIGNED ________________________________________ ______________________ Identification Provided ________________________ Telephone Number:________________________  Email of UNDERSIGNED: ________________________


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Hohenstaufenz 发表于 2014-12-5 20:56
毫无例外,每次都是非常认真的。

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Hohenstaufenz 发表于 2014-12-5 20:57
哦,是吧,我还没带人去试过。更别提带新手了。

哦,我不是说带新手,我是说和朋友一起去打sporting clay是非常好的social活动啊
带新手的话我试过,其实也不错,主要是大多数时候都是在聊天
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loomis 发表于 2014-12-5 21:08
哦,我不是说带新手,我是说和朋友一起去打sporting clay是非常好的social活动啊
带新手的话我试过,其实 ...

那是那是,带朋友出去打clay 是很爽,尤其是你了解他们,而且他们如果有很好的靶场安全意识就更好了。我此前指的是带自己不熟悉的人去射击。
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Wreak_Havok 发表于 2014-12-5 13:41
确实噢特曼了,现在去靶场也能泡妞了,呵呵

说真的,最近这三四年国内自费过来的本科和硕士生多起来之后

不靠谱的小朋友真是越来越多,把以前英国澳洲加拿大才有的一些不靠谱做法全给带过来了
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哎,趁年轻,飙飙车,无非就是吃点超速罚单。泡泡妞,喝喝酒,无非就费点钱,睡错个人。

别玩枪了。。出严重个问题de概率太高。
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Hohenstaufenz 发表于 2014-12-5 23:04
这里是我当年给学员提供的waiver form, 格式被打乱了,但是内容如下:
RELEASE, WAIVER, INDEMNIFICATION, ...

多谢分享!
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Hohenstaufenz 发表于 2014-12-5 21:18
那是那是,带朋友出去打clay 是很爽,尤其是你了解他们,而且他们如果有很好的靶场安全意识就更好了。我 ...

我不太敢带不熟悉的人去靶场,毕竟是有危险的活动。万一遇上个二愣子就麻烦了
所以即使是带玩枪的新手,也是我认识了有段时间,有些了解为人的情况下
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pandamalone 发表于 2014-12-6 01:10
说真的,最近这三四年国内自费过来的本科和硕士生多起来之后

不靠谱的小朋友真是越来越多,把以前英国澳洲 ...

这最后一句说的,那英澳加三地小留学生的不靠谱习惯是从哪儿带出来的?去美国的小留不靠谱 怎么扯上英澳加了?
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要谨慎。。加上全程监督,感恩节去Kansas,带了个新手差点出事。。拿枪指人。。同行的差点直接拔枪击倒。。
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bruce 发表于 2014-12-6 04:25
这最后一句说的,那英澳加三地小留学生的不靠谱习惯是从哪儿带出来的?去美国的小留不靠谱 怎么扯上英澳 ...

国内呗

说白了,就是这几年美国也是有钱就随便来了,放十年前并不是这样,甚至五年前也不太一样.结果就是林子大了什么样人都有了.
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lll1991 发表于 2014-12-6 05:45
要谨慎。。加上全程监督,感恩节去Kansas,带了个新手差点出事。。拿枪指人。。同行的差点直接拔枪击倒。。 ...

我也是遇到过两回,一次姑娘一高兴,转身时拿枪口扫到我们一片;另一次一土豪愣头青打308不听指示就开枪,想效仿什么CF quick scope, 结果后座力导致瞄准镜磕到眼眶子上,血流满面,现在想来都有些后怕,万一他眼瞎了,这事儿就麻烦了。即使有waiver form,也会惹上很多麻烦。
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这样很正确,要不然真的进医院了很麻烦的
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alex 发表于 2014-12-5 12:20
就是头脑一热,枪买了。这都一年多了,靶场上过一次,枪擦过零次。

这还好,没危害。
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sig2013 发表于 2014-12-6 19:15
这还好,没危害。

对人无害,对己无益。
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