清洁工是正当防卫吗？是。

lalirui

lesabre 发表于 2014-3-18 10:30
没有武器应该也可以，disparity of force 本来就是一个比较通用的self defense的合理理由之一。两个强壮 ...

I read the english news...what i understand is 压根就没起诉

tuziwang

3vs1, 不管怎样， 应该默认单人是正当防卫吧， 因为3人都参与了
如果当时是3人挑衅， physical 冲突不可避免， 对方有棒球棒， 清洁工用枪无可厚非啊

街头斗殴就是一个愿赌服输的情况， 多死几个上上头条， 让人对人有敬畏之心也没啥不好
我觉得他们死得其所。。。。

SemperFortis

手枪新枪手 发表于 2014-3-17 15:46
新闻题目说的都是 teens。看岁数，17，19，20。
看这个，19，20都是 adult。http://en.wikip ...

I'm a 27 year old teenager.

lalirui

SemperFortis 发表于 2014-3-18 10:47
I'm a 27 year old teenager.

you..no teeth..

SemperFortis

lalirui 发表于 2014-3-18 13:10
you..no teeth..

I've been a teenager for 14 years and I have a lot of experience.

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应该算正当防卫吧~~~

CiTY_HuNTeR

SemperFortis 发表于 2014-3-18 18:51
I've been a teenager for 14 years and I have a lot of experience.

CADET

SemperFortis 发表于 2014-3-18 15:51
I've been a teenager for 14 years and I have a lot of experience.

hahaha

lalirui

SemperFortis 发表于 2014-3-18 15:51
I've been a teenager for 14 years and I have a lot of experience.

I thought you have being a teenager since 11 years old..

TFollowerII

跟踪一些新闻才发现，17岁那个女的，已经是两个小孩的妈妈了。其中一个小孩的爸爸是另一个死者。

Miller leaves behind two young children, including one with Bell. Her family insists this wasn't in her character.

http://www.620wtmj.com/news/loca ... ting-250270411.html

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SemperFortis 发表于 2014-3-18 15:51
I've been a teenager for 14 years and I have a lot of experience.

Hello teenager 前辈

SemperFortis

lalirui 发表于 2014-3-18 16:52
I thought you have being a teenager since 11 years old..

That makes it 16 years if experience.

Eleventeen, twelveteen, thirteen.....twenty-seventeen...

lalirui

SemperFortis 发表于 2014-3-21 19:36
That makes it 16 years if experience.

Eleventeen, twelveteen, thirteen.....twenty-seventeen...

TFollowerII

清洁工是正当防卫。
Prosecutors won't charge janitor, say he killed teens in self-defense

打清洁工的第三个人可能也不会被起诉。
while Alls was jailed on possible battery charges. Prosecutors are still reviewing the case against Alls and have not made a charging decision.

Geraghty said Wednesday it's his understanding Alls will not be charged, and said that's OK with Rossetto, who just wants the whole process to be over.

Chris

其实如果清洁工在条件允许的情况下， 把三个人全部杀死， 可能麻烦会少一些…

因为有活口， 可能会乱说话。   全部干掉， 再有个好点的律师， 应该不会被判有罪。  

但是什么从后面射击不算…

deserteagle

清洁工的伤势会影响法官判案，如果伤得重，说是有生命危险，逼得我不得不开枪，可能就解脱了；如果只是非常轻的伤，普通打架似的，可能官司会打得比较辛苦。

Jena

deserteagle 发表于 2015-11-13 01:27
清洁工的伤势会影响法官判案，如果伤得重，说是有生命危险，逼得我不得不开枪，可能就解脱了；如果只是非常 ...

不需要已经造成的伤势来判断吧，当然这是其中一个考虑因素。使用棒球棍本身就已经是life threatening了，纪欣然就是被五名西裔用棒球棍殴打致死的。

xgeorge

Jena 发表于 2015-11-13 10:17
不需要已经造成的伤势来判断吧，当然这是其中一个考虑因素。使用棒球棍本身就已经是life threatening了， ...

同意。 已经被打死了，还怎么防卫？

睡眼朦胧

doublepar 发表于 2014-3-17 13:45
这必须看当时的具体情况。自卫开枪都是 Affirmative Defense，Burden of Proof 在开枪者身上。警察先逮人也 ...

+1

Huntington

lalirui 发表于 2014-3-18 16:52
I thought you have being a teenager since 11 years old..

The age of teenager ranges from 13 to 19.