父猎女巡蒙大拿，白尾棕麋喜双收。The End.

scharfschutze

@rc256 your 1st shot was too low. It looks high but it was because it hit the ground behind on the slope.

If your gun was dead on at 100 yard as you mentioned later, and if you used Federal Vital Shok 300 Win Mag 180gr (or something similar), it would have dropped 25-30inch at 425yards!!

rc256

scharfschutze 发表于 2014-11-6 21:33
@rc256 your 1st shot was too low. It looks high but it was because it hit the ground behind on the  ...

Can't be. I sighted in at 200yd, dialed up 5 MOA. Should be dead on. I use 180gr Federal Barnes MRX, BC .552, should drop about 23", 5.08 MOA. Used the same method the previous day hitting 400, 800 yd right on.  
You may be right it looked high because of the slope. But the gun definitely not right, I need to check the lugs, rings/scope and shoot a lot more before I take it for hunting.
The video looked about to the right and up. But later we shot the same bullet (the last one at the range) It shot deadon 100yd. I don't have the same bullets anymore now. But I will check with other bullets at the range, just to make sure it shoots consistently.

scharfschutze

rc256 发表于 2014-11-6 19:57
Can't be. I sighted in at 200yd, dialed up 5 MOA. Should be dead on. I use 180gr Federal Barnes MR ...

or it could be just a little too much to the right. I noticed it was a little bit windy, and anything can happen in the air just above the valley that separated you and your prey.

cnwarrior

rc256 发表于 2014-11-6 13:37
I grew up in Nanjing up to highschool. Came To US for college on a scholarship.

其先我还以为你在国外长大的呢，原来中文受过专业训练啊。怪不得文章写得很流畅、生动。

另外，我祖籍也是南京，但迄今只去过一次。

rc256

NCL 发表于 2014-11-6 18:26
刚想问用的是什么刀。看来手术刀用作剥皮刀确实靠谱啊。请教一下楼主，处理一只whitetail用一个刀片够吗（ ...

One blade is more than enough for one deer. Possibly two. The key is never cut hide from outside. Never cut hair.

Poke through skin, blade facing up, just slide open the skin. Then pull skin and slice to peel off. Easy. When deboning, be carefully not cutting into the bone. One blade is enough for an elk.

cxiaoga

425 yards 恐怕是直线距离. 从上往下射或从下往上射, 容易打高.  还要考虑角度. 所以水平距离要比425yards 短一些.  1000 TBR 有角度显示.

rc256

cxiaoga 发表于 2014-11-6 23:51
425 yards 恐怕是直线距离. 从上往下射或从下往上射, 容易打高.  还要考虑角度. 所以水平距离要比425yards  ...

Whole point of TBR is to give you ballistic equivalent range compensated for shooting angle already. I tested close distance and it seems to be accurate. For example test a telephone pole at 10-20yd. The distance is the same when you measure the trunk or the top.

And the later shot I used my Winchester M70 is dead on at 300yd, using the same range/dial method.

I know my savage LRH is off. But not sure why. That's is frustrating.

flyingspur

老兄真是艺高人胆大，只留四发子弹玩long range hunting

你的300WM送回去修好了？用的的S25 bipod？

flyingspur

我看像是打高了，如果是这样有几个可能
1. 第一发冷管会偏高一点
2. 弹道计算的问题：
    a. 打猎时气温比sight in的时候高，这个影响初速，你用的什么子弹？
    b. 你的弹道计算器输入density altitude或者海拔气压修正了吗？

无论如何，机会稍纵即逝。换成我，会继续打一发，自己看看弹着点在那里，然后用kentucky hold over

rc256

flyingspur 发表于 2014-11-7 00:24
老兄真是艺高人胆大，只留四发子弹玩long range hunting

你的300WM送回去修好了？用的的S25 bipod？ ...

Last year it shot really bad. Flying all over. Sent back to savage factory. They redid the barrel. And I shot a few times in the range. Seemed to be ok.

It could have got bumped in the car after the first day shooting. I left it in the back of the car, not in the case. So it could bumped the scope or something.

Anyway I won't have time to check on it until hunting season is over. Will now need to do shotgun and bow deer hunting for the rest of year.

dengdengdeng

To dial 5 MOA, you need to have lot of confidence in your gun and scope and range finder.

This is very difficult.

rc256

dengdengdeng 发表于 2014-11-7 10:32
To dial 5 MOA, you need to have lot of confidence in your gun and scope and range finder.

This is  ...

But in field condition, what else are you going to trust? Visual estimation is even less reliable. I tested rangefinder, scope test before, and bullet ballistics before. 800yd was dead on the previous day, dialed 13MOA, spot on elevation wise.

The altitude, atmosphere pressure would make very very small difference. Like <1" at 425yd. That should not play a factor. Only external factor beside the gun system is wind reading. Wasn't any gusting. Wind condition pretty much the same difference between missed shot and the later on perfect shot.

The 308 at 300yd shot needed 2.5MOA adjusment, exact impact point as I aimed. Drop dead right there.

I just need time to debug the 300WM savage, nikon scope, weaver mount system.

dengdengdeng

rc256 发表于 2014-11-7 10:54
But in field condition, what else are you going to trust? Visual estimation is even less reliable.  ...

I understand.
I will probably not turn the knob. just look at the 5MOA bar below the reticle.

flyingspur

rc256 发表于 2014-11-7 05:48
Last year it shot really bad. Flying all over. Sent back to savage factory. They redid the barrel. ...

现在能不能三发或五发一个moa? 300wm真是打western big game的好选择

这么说来是颠动了那里。你用的好像是nikon猎镜，应该带cap。用什么base和镜环呢？

我现在只用全钢base和镜环，软包里颠来颠去，还是这个最靠谱

flyingspur

dengdengdeng 发表于 2014-11-7 08:32
To dial 5 MOA, you need to have lot of confidence in your gun and scope and range finder.

This is  ...

Track 5moa acccurately is a piece of cake even for a $300 dollar scope. Not familiar with OP's LRF，but ranging 425yd in a clear day with good contrast object shouldn't be a problem.

After all, we talking about elks here, over 10 moa. It is likely somehow its zero has changed.

It wouldn't bother me too much, just roll with what you have at the moment

dengdengdeng

flyingspur 发表于 2014-11-7 14:10
Track 5moa acccurately is a piece of cake even for a $300 dollar scope. Not familiar with OP's LRF ...

我还从来没去过200yard以上的range，我们这里没有。一点经验没有，所以没有信心。

rc256

flyingspur 发表于 2014-11-7 14:03
现在能不能三发或五发一个moa? 300wm真是打western big game的好选择

这么说来是颠动了那里。你用的好像 ...

Possible because I left it in the truck not protected. Don't  have time to check it now as I will be busy bowhunting and shotgun hunting deer closer to home. Will check it probably next month. Thanks for all the advices.

I have a weaver one piece 20moa base, weaver 6 hole 1" rings. Nikon monarch 4-16 42mm scope.  Also I did the correct adjustment on parallax for the range.

7.62

听视频里你俩的对话，俺的心脏也在噗噗地跳！

曾经在一个狩猎论坛上看见大家讨论最美好的狩猎经历，很多人都说和父亲、爷爷、儿子、女儿一同狩猎是他们一辈子最美好的狩猎经历，而不是他们打了这辈子最大最漂亮的猎物。兄弟，你这一趟啥都有了，给女儿的一生留下了世间最美好的回忆！

7.62

还有，第一张照片很有Cabala's广告的感觉。

dengdengdeng

我看是打右打高了，离头很近。