这是公鹿刨的坑吗

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两边是山的低洼沼泽地，小溪边。附近鹿道很多，大小脚印不少，溪岸被鹿踩塌了几个地方，鹿径被落叶覆盖，但能看出因为经常有动物踩踏而轻微下陷。
这个显然是刨出来的坑，但上方没有树枝，附近也没有别的scrape，所以我不确定是不是公鹿的scrape。

saxe

I have never seen scrape like that

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saxe 发表于 2014-11-5 15:34
I have never seen scrape like that

我也觉得太深，范围也不够广。但如果不是鹿干的，会是什么动物在这种鸡不生蛋的地方搞这种东西呢？

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话说我最近跑的高低地形都不少了，就是没见过任何公鹿活动的痕迹，磨角、刨坑，都没见过，不知道咋回事

jiadizi

7.62 发表于 2014-11-5 18:39
话说我最近跑的高低地形都不少了，就是没见过任何公鹿活动的痕迹，磨角、刨坑，都没见过，不知道咋回事 ...

this is a very typical buck scrape.
http://pgtnaturegarden.org/wp-co ... -Rub-and-Scrape.jpg

saxe

7.62 发表于 2014-11-5 15:37
我也觉得太深，范围也不够广。但如果不是鹿干的，会是什么动物在这种鸡不生蛋的地方搞这种东西呢？ ...

I opened the image on my phone so it was not so clear, but the last image is harder to tell, need to check surrounding marks

My hunting ground is mostly higher and drier so the scrape can be totally different. Who know how the bucks in your area evolved to

saxe

Can you be sure about the deer track? Any evident to prove it?

saxe

jiadizi 发表于 2014-11-5 17:00
this is a very typical buck scrape.
http://pgtnaturegarden.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Buck-Rub ...

All the scrape I saw had marks on surrounding trees like the one on your photo, his one had no such marks

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saxe 发表于 2014-11-5 17:12
Can you be sure about the deer track? Any evident to prove it?

沼泽地很多苔藓，土质非常有弹性，不容易留下脚印，即使有也很浅，而且这个季节被落叶盖了，不太看得出来。但仔细翻动落叶，还是能看见很多脚印，俩脚趾头，很典型。不太明白的是，方圆几十码粪便很少，几乎没有，但100码外的干燥高地有一些很新鲜的粪便。

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saxe 发表于 2014-11-5 17:12
Can you be sure about the deer track? Any evident to prove it?

还有，像那个踩塌的岸，和被压低的地面，附近还有几个，不是长年累月地有动物经过不会有那种效果，但那个地方，人是不会经常去的。所以我能基本确定那一带常有鹿活动。附近的几百码的植被，主要是针叶林，灌木极少，就那一带very thick，这也间接支持鹿会到那里去。唯一让我不敢确定的就是鹿粪极少。像这种cover很好的地方，照理该是鹿的bedding area，粪便应该很多才是。或许是那里太阴湿了？

saxe

7.62 发表于 2014-11-5 18:03
沼泽地很多苔藓，土质非常有弹性，不容易留下脚印，即使有也很浅，而且这个季节被落叶盖了，不太看得出来 ...

Sounds like a deer path, I will keep a watchful eye on this, but I won't step on the suspected scrape and I won't even walk on it too much.

I hadn't seen any scrape in such landscape so I am just as new as you are.

See if cn warrior, bjgg or others had any suggestion

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saxe 发表于 2014-11-5 17:10
I opened the image on my phone so it was not so clear, but the last image is harder to tell, need t ...

附近都注意了，没有磨角的痕迹，也没有别的scrape，所以我也倾向于不是公鹿干的。

saxe

7.62 发表于 2014-11-5 18:14
附近都注意了，没有磨角的痕迹，也没有别的scrape，所以我也倾向于不是公鹿干的。 ...

How about putting up a trail cam nearby for a week?

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saxe 发表于 2014-11-5 18:34
How about putting up a trail cam nearby for a week?

已经安了，两个cam，呵呵

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saxe 发表于 2014-11-5 18:34
How about putting up a trail cam nearby for a week?

一般要拍摄几天？

dart

还以为是抱怨有人挖坑。

davidd

saxe

7.62 发表于 2014-11-5 18:45
一般要拍摄几天？

I usually take a week. I read somewhere before, three days minimum

It is better to take video instead of pictures

Hopefully you didn't leave it right next to that spot

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saxe 发表于 2014-11-5 19:02
I usually take a week. I read somewhere before, three days minimum

It is better to take video ins ...

为啥不能太近？我把cam绑在大约4码远的大树上，不过不是最近的那棵树，会不会太近？另一个摄像机放在附近的另一条鹿径边。

我准备放个三五天，摸清它们活动的规律

saxe

7.62 发表于 2014-11-5 19:26
为啥不能太近？我把cam绑在大约4码远的大树上，不过不是最近的那棵树，会不会太近？另一个摄像机放在附近 ...

I recalled Field and stream (?) had a study on that, using video, and noticed some deers might be spoked by the so called IR LEDs when they turn on.

That is why I suggest taking video to see if that was true.