Pistol-caliber carbines 上班不宜

davidlee1

最近热爱上了Pistol-caliber carbines，看着非常酷。大家有什么看法吗？ 弹道，精度， 后座。。。？

HK USC;

I can literally see these ladies screaming "USC USC". This alone made my $1500 purchase worthwhile.

Kriss Vector:

When a girl needs protection in seconds, man with other names are just minutes away. Therefore I choose Kriss.

Storm CX4

Itanlian Girl and Itanlian Gun, what else do I need to say.

Kel tec sub 2000

American beauty: Homealone 4 with sub2000

UZI

UZI,weapon of choice for every ganster and wild lady.

Hi point Carbin

Compared with the rest, Hi point carbine does look cheap.

heavypanzer

简单说一下

USC.45臭名昭彰，枪托断裂是家常便饭，终于连Hk都看不下去，今年宣布停产

Kriss实际枪口上跳是比较小，但200多gr的弹头出去，绝对枪口上跳感觉还是比AR猛，后坐力更是结结实实

Sub2000连9mm的后坐都挺猛烈的，塑料尾版狠狠地砸进肩膀，恍惚间有一种跪搓衣板的快感

CX4倒没听说过什么技术问题，不过手感完全就一马甲手枪，而且Beretta客服如屎一般，真的确定要买？


你需要Sig MPX-C，快换口径，短形程活塞，SHTF里套上不锈钢水管就变成消音卡宾
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/sig-mpx-c.aspx

brucewayne

SIG总有猛货

davidlee1

Sig MPX-C，加州可能不让有。

Cyberx1911

似乎每一款产品，Sig都有相当不错的解决方案等着，做什么像什么

7.62

sig那一系列都是全自动？

davidlee1

No good for CA. too bad. in addition, $2000?!

Sig Sauer MPX-C 9mm Carbine - 30rd MPX-C-9-T
Price: $1,999.95
MSRP: $2,199.95
Availability: Ships in 6-12 Months

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annieli

就我所知，CX4很赞，性价比无敌，用过的都说好，可惜零配件市场必较有限，不如AR好玩。

heavypanzer

davidlee1 发表于 2013-6-17 15:49
No good for CA. too bad. in addition, $2000?!

Sig Sauer MPX-C 9mm Carbine - 30rd MPX-C-9-T

官网没有发布MSRP，年初SHOT SHOW上传出的消息是估计一千上下，比Sig的几个5.56要便宜

西街民工

Cyberx1911 发表于 2013-6-17 12:51
似乎每一款产品，Sig都有相当不错的解决方案等着，做什么像什么

看得上的NJ都不让买

webhero

heavypanzer 发表于 2013-6-17 17:18
官网没有发布MSRP，年初SHOT SHOW上传出的消息是估计一千上下，比Sig的几个5.56要便宜 ...

我也在等。 有什么风吹草动，团购啥的，通知一声哈

SemperFortis

9mm/.45 AR15 is another option.

HK USC is piece of plastic junk sold at $1500.

Kriss is also extremely overpriced, aiming for the tacticool crowd.

Keltec is ok, if you mind looking like a hobo. Honestly I think nutnfancy gave it a very fair review: pistol carbines don't suck.

I liked the CX4. good quality and reasonably priced, but it's not CA legal. Suppose you can make it legal with certain mods...

The discontinued Marlin camp is another great pistol carbine.

Various handgun conversion kits are also good to go. If you can't CCW in your state, your handguns are but range toys anyway.

deedee

同学，你老夹私货，这可不成。要注明NSFW啊！

BerettaFan

imho, worst of both worlds: more cumbersome than a pistol and less powerful than a rifle.

SemperFortis

BerettaFan 发表于 2013-6-18 09:22
imho, worst of both worlds: more cumbersome than a pistol and less powerful than a rifle.

Or more powerful, accurate and easier to shoot than handgun, lighter and less recoil than rifle.

Best of both world?

happyfrog

Love your pic of girls with guns!

happyfrog

heavypanzer 发表于 2013-6-17 12:31
简单说一下

USC.45臭名昭彰，枪托断裂是家常便饭，终于连Hk都看不下去，今年宣布停产

"恍惚间有一种跪搓衣板的快感". Wow!

SemperFortis

我觉得kel tec, hi point手枪卡宾的优势和明显， 三四百块钱买一支半自动SMG， 比手枪容易打准， 威力略高， 比步枪轻便后座小（比.223后座还要小）。 肩托和长sight radius的作用不可低估。

如果花2000买个手枪卡宾那就有点二了。

davidlee1

SemperFortis 发表于 2013-6-18 09:41
Or more powerful, accurate and easier to shoot than handgun, lighter and less recoil than rifle.

...

信心大增！
在加州太惨了。 有钱没地花。什么都买不到。

davidlee1

deedee 发表于 2013-6-18 09:20
同学，你老夹私货，这可不成。要注明NSFW啊！

娱乐和教育两手抓。不就是穿的少点吗。